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#1401 2012-03-15 07:26:52

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#1402 2012-03-16 00:54:42

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Yes, me neither. There is still a lot more to learn.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#1403 2012-03-16 00:58:06

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Hi gAr;

In my excitement to have found a solution and to post it, I butchered the question.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#1404 2012-03-16 01:17:26

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Hi bobbym,

I did not get you. Is there something more in that question?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#1405 2012-03-16 01:19:50

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Yes, the question should have read the gambler could bet on heads or tails or both. This does not change the answer but leaves out a fine point in the solution.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#1406 2012-03-16 01:28:08

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That means, after each flip he can change his bet from head to tail and vice versa? Doesn't that change the answer?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#1407 2012-03-16 01:32:23

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#1408 2012-03-16 01:36:23

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Okay, this is confusing me.
I'll need to understand it before I can comment anything!
It's a good problem, thank you.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#1409 2012-03-16 01:38:27

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Hi gAr;

I am confused about whether or not he can change his bet from head to tail. He does not say he can not.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#1410 2012-03-16 01:51:49

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Okay.
I'm taking a break, see you later.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#1411 2012-03-16 03:51:18

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Hi gAr;

See you later. Let me know if you want to see the derivation of the answer.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#1412 2012-03-16 05:06:36

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Hi bobbym,

Yes, I'd like to see it.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#1413 2012-03-16 05:08:54

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Hi gAr;

Do you have the time? It will take me a while to post it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#1414 2012-03-16 05:14:18

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Hi,

Actually, I came to post a sum which I derived.
I'll check your solution tomorrow. See you!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#1415 2012-03-16 05:15:50

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#1416 2012-03-31 01:46:43

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"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#1417 2012-04-06 23:48:49

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Hi gAr;

I did not fully understand it either.

New problem!

Compute the Torricelli point for a triangle located at (0,0), (3,0),(0,4). You will need a convincing method, one that you could teach a computer.

A says) That is so easy. Problem was solved by Galileo thousands of years ago.

B says) Galileo? Why is it called Torricelli point? By the way it is not easy to generalize.

C says) A is right.

D says) C is right!

E says) How I hate this place. Galileo had nothing to do with it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#1418 2012-04-06 23:54:10

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hi bobbym

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-04-06 23:54:21)


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#1419 2012-04-06 23:55:32

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Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#1420 2012-04-06 23:56:24

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hi bobbym


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#1421 2012-04-07 00:18:57

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Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#1422 2012-04-07 00:36:58

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Hi bobbym

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-04-07 00:38:18)


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#1423 2012-04-07 00:47:09

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Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#1424 2012-04-07 00:50:44

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Impossibru!

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The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#1425 2012-04-07 00:52:55

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Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

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