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#51 2009-03-13 08:22:48

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Re: Metamorphosis

Yes, you did it! up

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#52 2009-04-06 03:02:31

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Re: Metamorphosis

BABY to GIRL to LADY.


Character is who you are when no one is looking.

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#53 2010-03-21 08:56:56

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BABY
BABE
BALE
BALL
BILL
GILL
GIRL
GILL
GALL
GALE
BALE
BADE
LADE
LADY

_________

BOOK  to CAKE to DOOR

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#54 2010-03-21 10:35:15

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Re: Metamorphosis

Hi;

book, cook, cork, core, come, came, cake, coke, core, cork, cook, book, boor, door


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#55 2010-03-21 11:49:14

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Re: Metamorphosis

Challenge #20: PEON to LORD to KING

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#56 2010-03-21 12:08:51

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Hi phrontister;

peon,poon,loon,lorn,lord, lard,land,band,bind,kind,king

ape to man to boy


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#57 2010-03-21 14:03:25

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Hi Bobby,

I had a shorter answer for PEON to LORD to KING.

ZERO to NULL to LOVE

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#58 2010-03-21 14:38:31

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#59 2010-03-21 14:39:11

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Hi phrontister;

I though you were supposed to come up with the longest way to do these? I have a 11235 length one I was going to post...

zero,hero,helo,hell,hull,null,dull,doll,dole,dove,love

Try this then:

woman to waked to manly


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#60 2010-03-21 14:50:06

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Hi Bobby,

My answer for ZERO to NULL to LOVE is shorter.

EDIT: I can't count...just noticed our scores are the same.

Re WOMAN to WAKED to MANLY: "Suffixes are not permitted"...from ganesh's rules in post #1.

I don't know exactly what is meant by that rule or how strictly we should apply it. For instance, Jane's first solution to Challenge #8 is BROWN, BLOWN, BLOWS, FLOWS, FLOES, FLEES, FREES, FREED, GREED, GREEN...containing 7 suffixes.

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#61 2010-03-21 15:02:23

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Hi phrontister;

If it's okay with Jane it is okay with me. Let's use em.

Your BABY to GIRL has an error. BABE to CARE is a 2 letter change.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#62 2010-03-21 15:18:13

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Hi Bobby,

If it's okay with Jane it is okay with me. Let's use em.

Ok...maybe it will open the game up a bit and appeal to more. Hope ganesh is ok with that.

Your BABY to GIRL has an error. BABE to CARE is a 2 letter change.

Oops...not enough care. Or any 'CARE', for that matter. I left out the "CARE" in between.


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#63 2010-03-21 15:24:42

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bobbym wrote:

I though you were supposed to come up with the longest way to do these? I have a 11235 length one I was going to post...

That would have to be a string of 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17 or 18-letter words (without repeats), as the other lengths have fewer than 11235 in the dictionary.


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#64 2010-03-21 22:34:07

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Hi Bobby,

Were you fishing for a Tigeree response?

FIVE + FOUR = NINE

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#65 2010-03-21 22:37:27

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Hi phrontister;

Are you fishing for a Tigeree response?

I really wasn't thinking about that.

FIVE + FOUR = NINE

Is that an alphametic or another type of problem?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#66 2010-03-21 23:10:05

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Hi Bobby,

Is that an alphametic or another type of problem?

It's a metamorphosis problem like the others in this thread. I just followed Jane's "READ a BOOK" and "PLAY with FIRE" notation style where she used connecting words different from the usual word "to" in order to keep to her problem theme.

It just so happened that, numerically speaking, my third word is the sum of the first two.

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#67 2010-03-21 23:35:38

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five,dive,dire,dore,dorr,dour,four,dour,dorr,dore,dire,dine,nine

meet -> mate -> dine


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#68 2010-03-22 02:08:04

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Hi Bobby,

THREE -> SEVEN -> EIGHT

I tried to beat your record of 11235 with this one, but just missed out! sad

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#69 2010-03-22 10:27:08

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I tried to beat your record of 11235 with this one, but just missed out!

How many did you miss by?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#70 2010-03-22 11:07:55

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bobbym wrote:

How many did you miss by?

Only 11215! sad

Our answers are nearly identical!

Your turn. smile

Last edited by phrontister (2010-03-22 11:24:51)


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#71 2010-03-22 11:25:42

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Hi;

I had something like that but dropped the sered because I couldn't find it in any dictionary online. I know it's a scrabble word.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#72 2010-03-22 11:34:46

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Hi Bobby,

The Oxford English Dictionary (the full set) has sere as a variant of cere. Cere has a verbal form...hence sered. And it's a valid Scrabble word, as you said.

I use the British-English OSW (Official Scrabble Words - by Chambers) when I'm stuck. I also have the American OSPD (Official Scrabble Players Dictionary), but that has fewer words. And I have a SOWPODS list that combines the two...valuable for players interested in international tournaments that allow double-dictionary play.

Sered is in both dictionaries.

Without suffixes this puzzle would be impossible.

Did you have shorter solutions than mine to others we've done?

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#73 2010-03-22 11:42:32

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Re: Metamorphosis

Hi;

No I don't think so.

full -> pour -> half


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#74 2010-03-23 00:53:46

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Hi Bobby,

I don't think so.

Oh. I wondered if you might have found any really good combinations.

CHESS -> BOARD -> CLOCK


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#75 2010-03-23 14:38:43

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Re: Metamorphosis

killer -> murder -> motive


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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