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#176 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-07 06:53:59
Hi, bobbym!
"...whole mathematical community..." claims that the
#177 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 13:49:47
Hi;
That is not how it works. I can assure you such a trip is a waste. For such a trip I am afraid you will have to find your own finances.
I understand it. It simply was the joke to be discharged 
#178 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 13:47:49
If you cannot get a handful of us to agree with you, then how are you going to convince a whole conference of mathenaticians to agree?
I ask to make you several times different tasks. You don't want to do. All of you time write words, instead of formulas. I doubt that you are a mathematics. There can be it you consider itself as the mathematician, but I don't see it.
#179 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 13:31:58
It is possible in a different way. It isn't necessary money send to me the correspondent of any influential newspaper or the magazine who works in Russia. I will make the rest.
P.S.
You agree, what I am not an idiot or down?
Or how? 
#180 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 13:25:32
I can advise to you here that. Collect mathematical community on conference. Send me money for the road and accommodation. I will arrive and everything to you I will show. I will show the main keys which I yet didn't give anybody. And that will be late and you won't see them.
In that very long to sit and press fingers the keyboard I don't see sense for clever people who want to learn truth. It only for idlers.
#181 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 13:16:46
Hi;
I do not agree that calculus is wrong. That is an error, it has nothing to do with calculus. I have not spotted any such errors other than human miscalculation.
All mathematical world looks at this mistake many years and anybody didn't correct it!
It therefore why the
line call the function schedule. Too the whole world looks at it 300 years and pretends that it is the truth.
#182 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 12:49:14
Hi;
I do not take this back that far because you are maybe having difficulties understanding a total derivative.
It is Calculus doesn't understand that such total and that such a partial derivative!
Structural Analysis:
"If function is differentiated on all range of definition that as a result there will be a total derivative and if as private range of definition, as a result there is a partial derivative."
But in post #92 that is not the derivative of the volume of a cone.
Here I also proved to you that calculus has mistakes. And you recognized it. Yes?
#183 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 12:37:15
You don't understand than variables differ from constants. Your division of variables is equal
to division of constants. It is a mistake. Or then at the left not variables, and too constants. Then your formulas don't make sense.
#184 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 11:55:35
Hi 21122012;
That is why I said aren't you leaving out a ( 1 / 3 ) earlier.
That all of you time write words. I understand language of formulas. Consider 1/3 and write a formula that you want to tell.
#185 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 11:52:01
Going into functions with two variables so that partials are needed is overkill. If calculus is wrong then he should look for a single variable mistake.
Not important AS passed calculation, it is important that result wrong. And here in what a mistake we will consider below.
#186 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 11:48:55
I'm sorry. Let me try again:
The partial derivative of the expression for volume of a cone is
and when you integrate it you get what you should-the volume of a cone.What you saw in that article is the total derivative of the volume of a cone. That is a different thing and its integral isn't the volume of a cone, and it shouldn't be, because you aren't differentiating the volume only with respect to h in the first place.
Let's make simpler. Write everything that you want to tell for my drawing D2.
.Write down formulas by total and partial derivatives!
#187 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 11:33:35
You got it wrong.
The partial derivative is r*pi^2/3 and the total derivative is r*pi^2., so integrating w.r.t h will not give you what you started with. No errors or mistakes!
That you wrote? I don't understand it!
- what is it?!#188 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 11:06:58
Why you wrote very much? You don't hear me. I showed you the link:
h ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_derivative
on which the full derivative of volume of a cone on height
according to the Calculus version is specified.
I integrated this derivative on height and received cylinder volume:
It is wrong.
- by cylinder, because: - by cone, becouse:, because .#189 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 06:38:39
Both in a cone, and in a cilinder the radius and height independent variables. Error of Calculus in application of partial differentiation. That is also expressed in a formula
. It is the wrong formula. There have to be two:If
1.
- integral with uncertain borders of integration.2.
- uncertain integral.the beater and mistake will disappear!
#190 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 06:21:32
Yes! "...So the differentiation is incorrect."
Calculus - the wrong theory!
With its application the wrong answers turn out!
#191 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-06 06:17:47
Hi;
Didn't you leave out a division by three?
I am not seeing the error.
What for nonsense? Where here three?
I and knew that in reply there will be falsifications. Answer me with two formulas my question of D.1 and D.2. I will show you a mistake. Why you are afraid to answer?
#192 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-05 16:05:14
Well.
I will show one real mistake. But usually after such my subjects in Russia deleted at once. I will try here. We look the link:
h ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_derivative
We see a formula of a full derivative of volume of a cone on height:
We integrate this derivative and we receive... cylinder volume:
Here to you one real mistake!
P.S.
h ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_derivative
#193 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-05 14:27:43
Hi;
Let's make so. I already spoke it. Let Structural Analysis will be addition to Calculus. I already understood that the concept Calculus - error it would close all doors before what Structural Analysis useful wasn't. NEVER mathematicians will allow anybody to doubt own correctness. Do you agree?
#194 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-05 11:41:01
Hi 21122012;
Why is it so odd that two functions can have the same derivative?
Answer, please, with two formulas. I will show you as CALCULUS is mistaken! You asked to show. I will show!
#195 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-05 11:38:12
I'm not sure what you mean by that...
Can you post an example in which Structural Analysis does something Calculus can't?
I claim that using CALCULUS, you won't be able to show a formula of the function represented in the form of the line on graphics of the function
. But using Syructural Analysis I will be able to show this formula!#196 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-05 08:28:12
A better question is why? I have heard of people wanting to dump set theory, I have heard of people who dislike topology. Even heard of people who hate infinity and hate continuous math in favor of transfinite numbers and discrete mathematics but I have never heard of anyone who has had a problem with calculus.
In order to even think about changing it you would have to find an occasion where it did not work. For me, that means you have to find an example where calculus gets the wrong answer. I mean a real live example!
Now you will answer the your question!
On D.1 and D.2 two
#197 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-05 07:51:01
21122012 wrote:Hi bobbym!
Insert please this link:h ttp://vladimir938.eto-ya.com/files/2012/12/key-n5.jpg
anonimnystefy wrote:Hi 21122012
Before you post anything else, could you explai, in simple words, what the main difference is between Calculus and Structural Analysis?
Yes!
function graphics, for example, the line is the function
Structural Analysis, for example, analyzes all area of the Cartesian system of coordinates, and Calculus only part of this system - the line. And that it is wrong. Because onIt is not true that calculus analyses only the line!
I showed you a formula of the function represented in the form of the line on graphics of
. It is the function. I claim that using CALCULUS, you won't be able to show a formula of the function represented in the form of the line on graphics of the function. But using Syructural Analysis I will be able to show this formula!I approve it, because calculus - the theory not a general view, but special cases which are given mistakenly out for a general view. But Structural Analysis - the theory of a general view.
You won't be able to answer such simple question using calculus!
#198 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-05 06:36:12
At me impression that you at all don't see that I give you.
#199 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-04 16:30:49
Hi;
Since you are disagreeing with the entire mathematical community both present and past, the onus is on you to provide solid evidence to convince everyone else. You will have to point out where anonimnystefy is going wrong.
How?!
#200 Re: This is Cool » New mathematic on english » 2012-12-04 16:28:21
Well, I don't know. I through two keys should publish a decisive key which connects among themselves geometry, integrals, derivatives, algebra, arithmetics and the functional analysis. And you don't publish keys which I give...