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And then of course, this is repeated further on. I'm sure I will see it the moment you tell me, I'm fairly sure I'm just not approaching this from the right perspective, but i don't quite see why we have the y and the x after the expansion, and then lose the a-squared.
Ah yes, of course, you're quite right, sorry, I was just thinking about it the wrong way, I read it as adding something to the y and then the same to the x, but i see what's going on now, but what about when we expand the brackets?
Hi bobbym, thanks a lot, but I think I'm missing a bit of theory - perhaps I'm just a bit rusty, lol. I've missed working on my mathematics, but I've recently started a university course in Sanskrit and Linguistics and haven't had the free time .
Anyway, I'm not really sure why:
And also, I don't know why, in the proceeding lines - having expanded the brackets, we are left with the extra y and x.
Thanks for all your help
Hi bobbym - I wasn't sure what it meant - my friend told me that they had been set this problem and thought I might be interested. I'm curious, but couldn't get anywhere with it myself, so I thought I'd ask here. I tried to do it with limits, using the traditional definition of a derivative as:
I suppose I was essentially trying to get around not being able to simply use the chain rule, by getting to the result of its application, but this may well not be the best way to do it.
Hi,
I have a question regarding differentiation:
I am under strict instruction that the chain rule may not be used - at least not without proof from first principles.
Many thanks
You're welcome
Hi alexandra
If you don't understand this last point, then just say, but if -3 is smaller than x, then, logically, x must be larger than minus 3, by definition, right?
If youve read this far, thank you for your patience.
I don't wish to appear sycophantic or anything, but actually I think you made some pretty good points which the over-zealous (I'm certainly thinking of my younger self when I say this) should think long and hard about, before treating mathematics as something which it is not.
Hi Ioida
In your preamble write
\usepackage{graphicx}
Graphicx will probably look for the picture in whichever directory the .tex file is in, but it's best to specify the graphicspath - especially if your picture is somewhere else on the system, in which case it won't find it, so write underneath that (yes, two braces, it works better, apparently):
\graphicspath{{filepath}}
Then, wherever you want the picture:
\includegraphics{filename}
It should not be necessary to include the extension. You can also scale the picture using
\includegraphics[scale=x]{filename}
Give x as a decimal, e.g. 0.5 or 1.8.
You can also use the figure environment if you want captions. There is a lot of information about this in the LaTeX manual (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX). There are also dedicated forums for LaTeX queries, and - indeed - TeX queries in general, and I suggest that for general TeX questions you go there. Not that I'm not completely happy to help, but you're much more likely to find your answer. Also, please remember that this won't work for .gif, I don't think. You should be using .jpg, .png or .pdf.
Hi
Is that on the forums or at home? On the forums, you cannot insert any pictures in LaTeX, you must use the standard bbcode. At home, if you are using graphicx, the supported image formats really depend on the renderer which you are using, however, I do not know of any renderer which supports .gif. pdflatex - the most common and, indeed, useful one, will only support .jpg, .png and .pdf, to the best of my knowledge. It may have expanded its abilities by now, or there may be a package which can do something clever and allow .gif files to be inserted (almost certainly by converting them to .jpg/.png for you) but I think that this is quite unlikely. Instead you should use one of these formats. Indeed, if you are using it for a diagram, then a vector image in .pdf format will definitely have a much much better effect.
Hi, yeah, I won't go into the details, but basically LaTeX is a mark-up language, and they way mark-up works - as you will probably have realised - is that if you want your text to appear in a certain way - such as to be in bold face - then you 'mark up' the text. i.e. you use special sequences of characters (called control sequences) to induce an effect (e.g. \textbf{Hi} makes Hi become Hi. textbf is the control sequence and the \ is known as the escape character, which escapes the control sequence. This means that the control sequence is interpreted as a command, rather than just normal text.) Anyway, I probably could have explained that better, but it's not very important, so don't worry if you didn't follow it. The main point is that these control sequences are interpreted by a renderer, which creates the final document. Now, the renderer already 'knows' the basic commands, such as \frac{x}{y}, however, we can also write packages which extend LaTeX beyond these very basic functions. Now, bbold is an example of a package which was written to give LaTeX more functionality. If our renderer doesn't know how to interpret \mathbb{1} in the way we want it to, then we have to load that package, and then the renderer will use the information contained in that package to interpret our control sequence. Otherwise, it will use the standard interpretation. IIn this case, the mathsisfun renderer does know the standard interpretation (bobbym's symbol) but not the interpretation you want. If you ever use your own renderer and write LaTeX for yourself outside of this forum, then you can use the bbold package and extend your own LaTeX capabilities. However, the mathsisfun forum (for very good reasons, mostly simplicity but also to prevent abuse) does not support the loading of extra packages, so we have to make do with the functionality we have.
As it happens, j is still used to represent the imaginary unit in electrical engineering - where i could easily be confused with the denotation of current.
Also, I completely agree with bob - clarity is what matters - as long as everybody understands it, then it's perfectly acceptable. I would concede, however, that the easiest way to make sure that this is the case is consistency of use, which, I think, is what standardisation of notation is generally aimed at.
I think what bob bundy was going for is the 'interpunct' symbol, as it is known in written languages, i.e.
Which is the chain rule. Certainly in vector calculus, to represent the scalar product, this must be used and it is eminently possible to use it for multiplication. It also helps separate the parts of bob bundy's multiplication for didactic purposes elegantly. By the way, bob bundy, the LaTeX for that symbol is \cdot - you may find it helpful in future .
Well, let's look at why we can't split the fraction up if we have p + q as our denominator. Since p and q are variables, they can stand for any number, so let's choose a simple example where p is 3 and q is 4. If we have:
Then thats:
Do you see? If we have a product, though, we're okay, because of the rules for addition of fractions. Do you see that above, we can only add to fractions with the same denominator, so i had to use the lowest common denominator of 12, and do:
We can do this for any number, so if we want to do:
Therefore:
It doesn't matter what ad and bc are, we can always split them, if it would help, let's use p and q:
We can split fractions where the addition is on the top, like this, because they have the same denominator. We are just undoing the combination when we add fractions, if you see what i mean?
Hi planetdomi,
For your first question, since pq is a product, we can say:
We can split the fraction in this way because we have addition on the top and not on the bottom. If you want to hear more about why, then just ask, from there we can simply cancel the p's and q's:
Since p is common to p and pq and q is common to q and pq.
We can simplify your fraction by expanding the brackets. I was always taught FOIL - first, outside, inside, last, which means that all your like-terms are already collected for you, but you can multiply them however you wish:
This is because x√3 - x√3 obviously gives 0 and √3 times √3 is 3, by the definition of a square root.
Your last question, by the way, is an example of what is sometimes called 'the difference of two squares'. If you have (x - a)(x + a), you will always get:
As you can see by using foil. Since x and a can be any number, we can see that this is always true. This is very useful, if you ever see something of the form:
You can easily factorise it using this rule. So for example:
Is that any clearer?
Hi,
Just about every way to show that 3.333... + 6.6... = 10 has been given, although I think that bobbym's suggestion of analysis is a good one. I believe, however, that it will yield the same answer. I wonder if it is also possible to think of it in terms of limits:
I'm fairly sure that that's true, however, I'm not sure if that's the best and most illustrative way of using limits, but somebody more knowledgeable might be able to help. Perhaps:
Would be better?
What I can point out, though, is that multiplication by ten doesn't mean that there will be a zero on the end of the number, e.g. 33.3 times 10 = 333. Since we use base ten, multiplication by ten simply means that we move everything up one place value - one ten. If, then, we are dealing with an integer, then everything gets moved along one place value and since the last digit is in the 1s column, we move it to the 10s and add a 0. If we have a decimal, however, then we move everything along, e.g. from the hundredths up, which will move our last digit into the tenths - no need for a zero. Since 3.3... is a non-terminating decimal we will never get to the end and so we will never have to worry about putting a zero there.
Thanks
Interestingly, TMorgan, to print a square root sign in LaTeX you simply have to use \sqrt, which is similar to what you did
Hi
I think your diagram is wrong, you can't have a right-angled triangle of sides 1, 2 and √3, like that since
I think that the hypotenuse should be 2 and the side which is currently 2 should be √3.
Thank you
That's very nice - does anybody know the proof of l'Hôpital's rule?
Well the way it worked this ear was that we were given a load of forms at the start and then you choose a title and a teacher to supervise you and then your supposed to fill the forms out as you progress, talking to your supervisor as you work on your EPQ. Most of the marks are, in fact, awarded for the forms - this is really why it was a waste of time. You spend many hours working on your EPQ but it's all in the form filling, it's just pathetic. Naturally, of course, in out case it didn't work like that, we all went away and then a few days before the respective staggered deadlines we all rushed to our supervisors filled out the forms, made up the dates, pretended we'd taken on-board the advice and got it all sent off. I don't know if the same will be the case with you and your supervisor, but I would be surprised if not. It's unlikely to be excessively well-organised and there are staggered review sheets, but it's unlikely to be too much. Well I was working with two others and we spent most of our summer on the report - which was fine, it was a really good summer, but the forms don't take long in terms of hours a week but are tiresome and time-consuming in the sense that it might take you twenty minutes to get the whole thing all filled out properly. It's supposed to represent about 100 hours' work, though, I think, or something like that.
Yes, you do have to give an a presentation, but the audience probably won't be much. The presentation is just a part of it, I mean, there's the thing, the artifact, the finished project, then loads of forms with the hows and whys and then a presentation full of the hows and whys as well. It's like the world's most excessively tedious piece of standard science coursework. But yes, the presentation will be to your supervisor and then your peers, really, anyone who wants to come - ours was given to our supervisor, a couple of teachers and another young man who was doing an EPQ under the same supervisor. But really, it's generally to whomever you invite/your supervisor invites. I have to say I rather enjoyed giving my presentation - very good fun indeed.
Yes, I did an EPQ - if you would like to hear more about it then I would be happy to explain further. What I would say, though, and I hate to be blunt - but it really was a waste of time.
Also, I do understand - you are an ambitious person and - more importantly - you would like to spend the rest of your life doing what you love and in your case - regretfully, in my opinion - you do need pieces of paper, there's no way around that. However, I think maths excellence is just as good if you can prove it as if you can't, the piece of paper is just a hoop that, unfortunately, you can't really avoid going through, but the excellence is worth just as much without it - it is still as valuable in itself, perhaps more in some ways, since it is rewarding for its own sake.
Well, examination centres must be registered with the JCQ I believe, but they are not necessarily schools, there are places - I believe - which are also set-up for this purpose. It is not something which I have ever looked into, though, you should speak to your school's external examinations officer or do some internet research into this. It is, however, possible to sit an examination without your school's facilitation, although it's obviously not necessarily easy or cheap.
I think Bobbym's advice and my advice has been roughly similar so far - along with the contributions of bob bundy - and I don't wish to repeat bobbym's advice in slightly different words at this stage. I shall, however, urge you to consider what he is saying - and, indeed, what he is about to say - carefully, he is a wise and very reasonable mathematician and is giving you sound advice.
Sometimes they will. If you don't continue a subject to A2, then it will still score UCAS points (half as many as the equivalent grade for a full A-level) so they can contribute to some pure points offers (although many universities will specify that the points must come from a certain number of full A-levels). Further, as we've discussed - although not the be-all-and-end-all, module scores can work in your favour and they will definitely contribute to the overall grade, you always need a certain UMS score overall. Sometimes, they will include references to AS scores. However, I admit that I didn't pay that much attention so I could be wrong - on this issue, though, I don't believe so. Here, allow me to quote an example offer for you:
This offer is subject to you obtaining a minimum of 320 UCAS Tariff points. Score to be taken from 3 A Level subjects only, excluding General Studies. Alternative conditions: A minimum of 340 UCAS Tariff points. Score to be taken from 3 A Level subjects and one AS subject only, excluding General Studies.
As for your grades this year - you did exceptionally well - why should it matter what another person has done or failed to do? You have still done brilliantly. I think you would enjoy university and excel there. You may well be able to take advantage of entering university early - it will be less frustrating for you certainly. It is, however, a lot of work for you to do by then and a decision which only you can make.
There's nothing wrong with being an academic and enjoying your mathematics and other such things, but I do think that there're more important things.
Also, on the Further Maths (Additional) front - it is possible. Even if your school don't offer it, you can purchase your own textbooks and learn the courses for the other modules. If your school won't let you sit the exams there (which they probably will) then you can sign up to sit them at a registered centre. It may cost you a little to sit the exams and, of course, so will the textbooks, however, you can sit those modules with or without the support of your school.
That's what we're here for - to enjoy doing some maths together - just post your questions in the forum and we'll do our best