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#6676 Re: Guestbook » hello » 2005-04-25 10:04:03

jam-pot wrote:

it dsoe not mtater waht odrer the lrrtes are in you can sitll unsterdnd the wrods as lnog as the wrods hvae the frtis and lsat ltert are in the crorcet pacle

T thnik I cna deruntsand thta !

#6677 Re: Help Me ! » Algebra help bad » 2005-04-24 23:07:20

Yeah, it is like teaching at Kinder it is all specialised on teaching skills, then as you go up the grades till Uni the emphasis slowly swaps over to knowing the subject you are teaching and less on your actual teaching skills.

As a result there can be really good teachers at Uni, and sometimes really bad ones who know their subject very well but have no ability to communicate it. I have studied under, and worked with, both!

A Uni job is not easy, but if you stay focused on helping the students it can be very rewarding.

Stay out of staff politics, though. By that I mean all the gossip and who is trying to take over whose job, and why this or that guy is really stupid with his theories, etc. But that advice applies to any job, really

#6678 Re: Introductions » nice to meet ya » 2005-04-24 22:55:02

See under "Quick Post" there is a little link that says "Smilies" - that lists them.

#6679 Re: Puzzles and Games » Good one for y'all » 2005-04-24 22:53:40

Stewie's cool, just needs to stop those one-line putdowns.

#6681 Re: Help Me ! » vertices » 2005-04-24 22:46:58

Deja vu !  *looks around feeling strange*

#6682 Re: Help Me ! » solids » 2005-04-24 22:43:27

Vertices: Plural of vertex

The vertex is just a corner point.

A cube has 8 vertices.

An egyptian pyramid would have 5 (one at the top, and each corner of the base)

#6683 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » Puzzles » 2005-04-24 22:41:56

... and Wanda's favorite saying is ... ?

#6684 Re: Puzzles and Games » Good one for y'all » 2005-04-24 22:37:40

jam-pot wrote:

dude ok can we stop all this stuff calling each other like stupid morons.
we should team up

Exactly - I had to delete a few "shutups". This isn't doing anyone any good.

#6686 Re: Introductions » nice to meet ya » 2005-04-24 22:30:59

OK, OK, we probably need a special forum for blonde jokes.

Maybe call it "hair-colour-challenged jokes"  roll

#6687 Re: Introductions » nice to meet ya » 2005-04-24 18:29:13

Welcome, Vulcan. It is not nerdish or geekish to be smart.

The truth is, we WANT to hear from you - we love interesting discussions. Just join in, and see what happens.

Got any puzzles or clean jokes to share?

#6688 Re: Help Me ! » arrrgghhhh!!! normal distributions???? » 2005-04-24 18:28:23

Arrggghhh indeed !

Let me put my thinking cap on here ...

You can read up on Mean and Standard Deviation if you want to, first.

Well, you said "normal" distribution. That is a special word that says it follows a certain well-defined pattern on a graph that looks like a bell. (Funny that "normal" means it is special ...)

You can look at the curve here

First step is to figure how many standard deviations (80 in your case) that each value is from the mean (120 in your case).

Let us work on your examples:

i) below 100   ==>  100 is 20 away from the mean of 120, so it is 20/80 = 0.25 standard deviations away.
ii) above 130  ==>  130 is 10 away from the mean of 120, so it is 10/80 = 0.125 standard deviations away.

The next step is to look up these values (0.25 and 0.375), which are called "z-scores", in a table. Yep, you gotta look em up, unless you have them as a special function on your calculator or software.

Looking up these values, I get:

0.25: 0.0987
0.12: 0.0478

That means that 0.0987, or 9.87%, of the population are between the mean (120) and 100
And that 0.0478, or 4.78% are between the mean and 130

The rest is just figuring what the question asked: above, below, between?

The first question says "below 100" - well, we know that 9.87% are between 100 and 120, and 50% must be greater than 120 (because 120 is the mean), so 59.87% are GREATER, and therefore 41.2% must be LESSER, or below!

Likewise "above 130" can be figured out to be 45.2%

All the others can be worked out in a similar way, and I leave that up to you ... !

#6689 Re: Jokes » The Duck » 2005-04-24 02:19:50

This is sounding more and more like a spy movie - who do you believe? Are they just saying it so you will think they are lying, when really they are telling you the truth? Or is THAT what you are supposed to think ...

#6692 Re: Maths Teaching Resources » Crazy Teachers » 2005-04-21 10:31:42

It kinda grows on you ... is it quod its easier to type, or quod it just seems to fit?

What do you think Zach ... it isn't AOL-ish.

#6693 Re: Jokes » The Joys of Parenthood » 2005-04-21 10:22:53

So that we can make jokes about them, of course.

#6694 Re: Guestbook » who cares! » 2005-04-21 10:00:19

Well there you go, Jessamy DOES know some maths ...

#6695 Re: Guestbook » hello » 2005-04-21 09:58:53

LOL ... Zach has a thing about "AOL-ish" ! Watch out !

#6696 Re: Help Me ! » What's the length of the spike. Please I really need this help » 2005-04-21 01:06:25

Thank you. I did not mean that his line of sight passed through the very top, I merely said "grazes the upper surface" (ie a tangent)

Yes, it needs triangles to solve. And the spike's height can likewise be solved.

Could you crunch the numbers, and see if you agree with my 8.24m distance to centre line of dome?

Oh, and if you can spare the time you are most welcome to drop by the forum every so often and help with some of the "Help Me!" problems.

#6697 Re: Maths Is Fun - Suggestions and Comments » Problems with checkers » 2005-04-20 23:53:41

OK, I have another checkers game, which hopefully will let you win smile

It is here

I have just a small bug left where it can declare victory too early.

You will surely let me know if it has other problems.

#6698 Re: Introductions » tricks to find age using numbers » 2005-04-20 22:21:08

I wouldn't go messin' with Mr T ....

There, I warned you.

#6699 Re: Guestbook » maths » 2005-04-20 22:04:52

Pythagoras was a greek man who lived 500 years before Christ was born.

His fundamental belief was "that at its deepest level, reality is mathematical in nature".

Today we know him because he discovered that you could work out the third side of a right-angled triangle if you know the two other sides. This is explained here

#6700 Re: Guestbook » who cares! » 2005-04-20 21:56:26

Who cares? We do!

So sorry, Jessamy. You are in a difficult position, aren't you? You need to do maths, and it is important if you want a career, but you don't like it.

You say "half the things you actually learn you will never need anyway". But which half? If you want to do Business, Medicine, Engineering, Political Science, Carpentry, Electrical Trade, or most any worthwhile career, you will need to do lots of maths.

I believe there is an underlying reason you hate maths, and it is not the fault of maths itself, but more to do with how you have learned it.

Somewhere along the way it became hard for you, and every year it is just gets harder.

You need to go back to where it was easy and build yourself back up again.

Maths isn't easy, but it is CERTAIN.

Luckily for you there are now great resources to help students on the internet.

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