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#301 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » NFL football » 2007-11-26 10:54:31

its war!

we really should have won that game. But we gave up a touchdown in the first 2 minutes, and later on the patriots made a catch in the endzone which both John Madden and Al Michaels agreed was out of bounds, but they didn't challenge it and the play stood.

That should have been ours!

#302 Re: Help Me ! » Trigonometric equations » 2007-11-26 10:45:07

okay, the trick with these is to basically get all the trig functions on one side, and all the numbers on the other.

1.


so

so

this you have to solve just by familiarity. The solution in this case happens to be 45 degrees or pi/4.

I don't have time right now to do all of them, but they're really quite easy. All you really need to know is the following identities:

the Pythagorean identities:



and




whenever you see a squared trig funciton, like sin^2 x or cos^2 x and a 1 present, its a dead giveaway, you have to use one of the Pythagorean identities.

hope this helps.

#303 Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » NFL football » 2007-11-26 10:29:33

mikau
Replies: 5

clearly many members here aren't from the US but I thought we might as well have an nfl discussion thread.

Did anyone see the Patriots Vs. Eagles game last night? I'm from Philadelphia and MAN that was exciting! we were SOOO close to breaking their perfect season!

#304 Re: Help Me ! » matrices » 2007-11-26 03:25:16

another way to do it, suppose a and c are nonzero. then
multiply the top row by c and the bottom row by a

(ac bc)
(ac da)

subtract the top row from the bottom row

(ac       bc)
(0  bc - da)

now clearly of ad - bc = 0 then bc - da = -(ac - bc) = -0 = 0 which implies the second row is zero and thus having a nonzero row, the matrix is not invertible.

using a similar procedure, we can show that if a or b is zero, and b or c is non zero, then the matrix can be shown to have a zero row. And if all entries are zero, its trivial.

Mathsy's proof is just as good if you are allowed to use the determinant rule, however I suspect you haven't learned that yet or it would have been obvious.

#305 Re: Euler Avenue » Interesting proofs » 2007-11-25 13:30:58

blah, just fixed the latex in my proof. Have a look! smile

#306 Re: Help Me ! » LaTeX - A Crash Course » 2007-11-25 08:18:53

don't mind me, i'm just practicing.


#307 Re: Help Me ! » lim » 2007-11-25 08:12:54

are you allowed to assume lim sin(x)/x = 1? if so

lim (x - sin(x))/x^3 = lim (1/x^2) - lim(1/x^2)*lim sin(x)/x =  lim (1/x^2) -  lim (1/x^2)*1 =  lim (1/x^2 - 1/x^2) = lim(0) = 0.

i THINK thats right.

#308 Re: Euler Avenue » Interesting proofs » 2007-11-25 07:59:49

I'm really happy I managed to figure out this proof last night, turned out it was exactly what my book did and I thought it was kind of cool.

suppose


are linearly dependent.
now suppose we one by one remove every vector in

that can be expressed as a linear combination of the others. When we are done we will have a linearly independent subset of

consisting of m elements, call it 

we have the set

is not empty for the vectors are all non zero so the linearly independent subset contains at least one element.

Now take an element


not in the set 

we have that

but also we have that
can be expressed as a linear combination of

so

where

are the scalers of the linear combination. But also by the distributive property of matrix multiplication:

thus

so

since

are linearly independent, we have that all scalers are zero.
Recall now that we have all eigenvalues are unique, and

is not an element of

so

thus 

thus, since they are linearly dependent, and by the zero factor theorem, all scalers

must be zero. But this implies that

and we were given all vectors were nonzero. Hence the contradiction.
So it must be linearly independent.

#309 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Q20 » 2007-11-25 06:38:56

1. Woman dead
2. No she was not a scientist.
3. No she was not involved in the arts.
4. No she was not involved with feminism
5. No she was not involved with law.
6. Yes she died before the 19th century

#310 Re: Jokes » The endless battle between mathematicians and engineers... » 2007-11-24 14:00:21

i can't believe it took me like five minutes of scratching my head to get that one. Hehehe! smile

#311 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Q20 » 2007-11-24 13:48:15

I think it means acting, painting, music, acting, that sort of thing?

#312 Re: This is Cool » electronic Q20 reveals what most people understand least! » 2007-11-24 13:45:04

agreed. It just sounds weird to say infinity is smaller than a microwave. smile

#313 Re: This is Cool » electronic Q20 reveals what most people understand least! » 2007-11-24 06:56:34

well i've tried it 3 times and each time it always guessed one (infinity or nothing) then the other. Always infinity and nothing.

#314 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Q20 » 2007-11-23 16:30:09

1. Woman dead
2. No she was not a scientist.
3. No she was not involved in the arts.
4. No she was not involved with feminism
5. No she was not involved with law.

#315 This is Cool » electronic Q20 reveals what most people understand least! » 2007-11-23 12:23:11

mikau
Replies: 4

I have an electronic Q20 game, like the game we play in dark discussion (except this only works for things, not people). The device asks you 20 questions to which you can answer Yes, No, Sometimes, or Unknown if you are not sure. If it doesn't guess right after 20 questions, it asks 5 more and guesses once more, if it fails then it proclaims you the winner.

This little device is AMAZINGLY good, and unless you pick the most obscure object on the face of the earth, it almost always guesses. Its obviously got a vast library of well organized and categorized objects, and slick AI to handle potentially erroneous answers. (it tends to get it right even if you answer some questions incorrectly)

But the Unknown answer is most interesting. You basically tell the computer little information except how little is known about it in that area.

Suppose then we answer all 20+5 questions with unknown. If this thing is categorize so well it should tell us what your ordinary human understands the least, or rather, what most can answer the least questions about. The results made me smile. So here it is! What the machine asked and the answers I gave.

1. Is it an animal? no. vegetable? no. Mineral? no. Other? no. Unknown? Yes. ( I know thats really 5 questions but that always comes first with this device.)
2. do you hold it when you use it? unknown
3. does it make sound? unknown
4. was it used over 100 years ago? unknown
5. does it use electricity? unknown
6. do you use it in your home? unknown
7. does it come in different colors? unknown
8. is it outside? unknown
9. does it get wet? unknown
10. does it go inside of other things? unknown
11. is it man made? unknown.
12. could it be found in a classroom? unknown.
13. is it larger than a microwave oven? unknown
14. can you hold it? unknown
15. is it involved in movies? unknown
16. is it smaller than a loaf of bread? unknown
17. is it commonly used? unknown.
18. is it dangerous? unknown.
19. is it small? unknown
20. Is it usually visible? unknown.

you're thinking of Infinitysmile  No.

21. can it be used more than once? unknown
22. can it bend without breaking? unknown
23. is it round? unknown
24. can you get information by using it? unkown.
25. do you know any songs about it?  unknown

Its Nothing? smile no.

So there you have it! It seems what people can answer the fewest questions about are infinity and the empty set! Got to love how math shows up everywhere, eh? smile

kinda sad to know most people don't know infinity is larger than a microwave oven though, eh? lol

#316 Re: Help Me ! » Improper one » 2007-11-23 09:00:13

are r and θ regarded as constants in this problem? or do they have the relationship x = r cos(θ)?

#317 Re: Help Me ! » Examples Needed » 2007-11-23 08:54:35

gah, you beat me to it, TheDude! smile

#318 Re: Help Me ! » Examples Needed » 2007-11-23 08:53:23

try this. Represent the elements of B as variables a, b, c and d like so
|a b|
|c d|

square this matrix to obtain
|(a^2 + bc)   (ab + db)|
|(ac + dc)   (bc + d^2)|

now you need to find any a,b, c and d such that all these entries become zero. Can you think of any? (hint, use as many zeros as possible, but don't use all zeros, your book probably wants a non zero matrix).

#319 Re: Help Me ! » matrices » 2007-11-23 08:36:01

do you have any theorems at your disposal? There should be a quicker way to prove it.

Anyway, here is one way to do it. Suppose There is some matrix B such that AB = I, by definition of matrix multiplication, we have that

[i]ij = [AB]ij = ∑ [A]ik[b]kj from k = 1 to n. Now suppose this matrix A has a row of zeros in the m'th collum, the identity matrix would have a 1 at the m'th row and the m'th collumn, so we have that

1 = [i]mm = [AB]mm = ∑ [A]mk[b]km  from k = 1 to n

thus the summation has a total value of 1. But note for all k, we have that [A]mk = 0 (because this exists in the mth row and thus has a value of zero), so we have this summation is the same as
∑ 0*[b]km from k = 1 to n, = ∑ 0 from k = 1 to n = 0. Thus this entry cannot possible be the (m,m)th entry of the identity matrix, therefore the matrix A cannot have an inverse.

#320 Re: Help Me ! » matrices » 2007-11-23 08:23:20

here's how.

show AB is invertible if A and B are invertible.

Well we know A and B have an inverse so if we multiply AB on the right by (B^-1) (A^-1) we have AB(B^-1)(A^-1) = AI(A^-1) = A(A^-1) = I.

now show that AB is not invertible if A and B are not invertible.

we have A and B are not invertible, now suppose AB is invertible, then there is some matrix M such that
(AB)M = I, but this means that
A(BM) = I, which means A has an inverse 'BM' which is a contradiction. Therefore, AB cannot have an inverse, and is not invertible.

#321 Re: Help Me ! » algebra » 2007-11-22 19:08:15

This is a line that goes in the 2 o'clock direction, sortof.d

don't you mean 10 o'clock? wink

#322 Re: Guestbook » Hi all » 2007-11-22 19:05:24

welcome to the boards!

So how many programming languages do you know? smile

#323 Re: Guestbook » tell me » 2007-11-22 18:37:51

Ricky of course! He's in the US. And so am I.

#324 Re: Help Me ! » Factor and remainder theorem nedd help quickly please » 2007-11-22 06:26:09

1. first use polynomial division to divide 2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6 by (2x-1), once you're done, if there is no remainder, you have the quietnet is P, that is (2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6)/(2x-1) = P, multiplying both sides by (2x - 1) you obtain

2x^3 - 3x^2 - 11x + 6 = P(2x-1), your job will then be to factor the polynomial P you got from the division. This will be a quadratic polynomial so it should be easy to factor.

for 2. again divide  4x^3 +12x^2 -7x - 30 by (x+2), if there is no remainder, then it is a factor. It says show that k = -2 though. You'll have to provide more info there because you haven't told us what k represents.

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