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Had a goodnight sleep on your bed without back pains. Sweet dreams.
I am not French, I study in a French Brother Christian School.
Venez-vous de France? I am going to school, it's 6am here.
Hi guys;
I came back from school about 30 minutes ago. I haven't been deliberately out of here. Let me add though that from tomorrow I'm taking a break from here cos mum is taking her device back.David; putting everything together, I can only conclude that you were once a JW. Are you really 15 years old like you say?
Bobbym; I'm Christian. May I know which country you live in?
It is my hope and prayer that we all learn the truth sometime soon, or in the not too far future, because you know, it hurts to find out later that you are being or you have been deceived.
I am 15. I am not a JW.
god of the gaps.
Who is God?
Of you.
Who is the creator?
I might not. I asked because I wanted to know how you feel about yourself. What are the consequences of dying within your dream?
Then?
According to you, you are in a playground and that God had provided you everything to play in the field. You live in a dream within a dream.
A sin that came from the first man, and that goes with the last man.
I want you to ask yourself this question, have you sinned? Are you perfect?
Psalm 51:4
Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest.
Jehovah's Witness (the organisation, watchtower, JWs) believes that Jesus came to the Earth invisibly and walked among the churches in spirit form. After he had conducted a careful study of the churches, he determined that the only people that worship YWHW purely are the JWs. He then proceeded to replace the Jews as his chosen people with the JWs. This is not what the bible teaches.
JW's are not considered Christian by other Christians because they reject the Trinity - the idea that Jesus was both man, and God.
They use their own translation of the Bible, and while is is almost exactly the same, there are 5 or 6 places where the wording is very slightly different. However, they place a great deal of doctrine on these places, which goes in a completely different direction than most Christians accept.
However, in many ways, they are better than most of us, they live their faith daily, not just for an hour on a Sunday They believe they are Christians, and cal themselves that, even if others do not. I do admire their commitment to their faith, but I cannot accept their translation of the Bible, nor where they go with it.
Hi David;
Do you personally know anyone who was treated that way by the whole organization of Jehovah's Witnesses (not by an individual JW)?
I do not. However, that individual JW who shunned others was the elder.
Math9maniac;
The bible did not foretell of any watchtower organisation that would be Jehovah's people. Nor did it foretell the organisation having the authorities of Jehovah. Jesus came to Earth and after he was resurrected there wasn't a true Church for 1900 years until a 'prophet' named Charles Taze Russel came along, believed that his interpretation of the Bible was right, and that God had liked his interpretation, and made it the true one, therefore establishing Jehovah's Witnesses. Does this make any sense to you?
JWs believe that Jehovah is God's name, but the letter 'j' doesn't exist in Hebrew, Latin and Greek. In fact, the letter J didn't even exist in the English language until the 16th century. So how did Jehovah come from? My God's name is YWHW. So God's name is YWHW(Yahweh), and Jesus, Yeshua means Yahweh saves, why?
What if both of you are wrong?
Romans 3:4
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
The fruit of the spirit is my source. This organisation had broken a lot of friendship and families, I do not call that love. I have studied every single religion from paganism, Buddhism, Hinduism, islam, Christianity and Judaism. The only religion that I could sense God's love and presence is Christianity. Christianity is not a religion, it is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Jehovah's Witness is not Christian in anyway, they are like islam. When you left the watchtower, you have to be prepared to be shunned and hated. My source is the bible and the fruit of the spirit.
Don't really agree with you. JWs have the highest turn over of any religion, strict shunning when you left the watchtower is not love. The Holy Spirit is not an active force like what the JWs believe, he is a gentleman. Our God never force anyone to love him, but the JWs are criticising all other denomination. The elders are like the Pharisees that labeled the work of the spirit as the work of satan. All things are forgivable, but blaspheming the Holy Spirit is not. I believe Jesus is not Michael. The JWs believe only 144000 have a personal relationship with Jesus, and the rest don't. Why? Why is Jesus the Lord? Why Jesus never say: "The Lord rebuke you" but Michael did? How did Michael an angle, became a man then a angle again? Are we not created in the image of God? Are we not consist of the body, soul and spirit?
Dear David, I'd like answers to these questions since from the look of things you're Christian: Which church are you a member of? Are you a pastor or other religious leader? How many JWs do you know? Have you been a JW before? Is any one in your nuclear or extended family a JW? And if you don't mind, may I know as well which country you're from or the country in which you currently reside?
I'd be most grateful for your responses. Many thanks.m9m
I am 15, I'm a student. I currently live in a muslim country, Malaysia. I have been to many different churches, Methodist, Christ Church, Anglican, Roman Catholic, Orthodox Catholic, Pentacostal, Charismatic and Baptist. I never been to a Jehovah's Witness and Mormon Church. I was formally a Roman Catholic, but now I label myself as born-again. If someone invites me to their church, I will go with them. I never met a Jehovah's Witness in Malaysia. But from what I have seen I can't agree with their teachings. Mind to enlighten me?
The JWs witness had changed the bible to suite their needs. https://carm.org/religious-movements/je … rd-was-god
https://carm.org/religious-movements/je … ranslation
@David, do you think the Witnesses are dangerous? I believe the truth is in the Bible itself not what man thinks. I would associate with any who believes the Bible (God's Word) is truth and bases his beliefs on that. I believe that's exactly what the JWs are known for.
Hi math9maniac,
"I believe the truth is in the Bible itself not what man thinks", I'm afraid you are following what man thinks. The Jehovah's Witnesses are know for setting up false prophecy that never comes to light, and having their own version of the bible.
I am, however, like any other sinner could be wrong. My advise to you is to look for the fruit of the spirit. Read a bible other than the JWs version. Like the KJV online here https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/K … KJV-Bible/. Read the bible, not the watchtower. If you find the bible hard to understand, than pray and ask for guidance from the Holy Spirit. The bible is all that is needed, it is both the cup and the water.
David wrote:Micah's name means Who is like Jehovah, does that make him God?
Seems I've been misunderstood. No one is saying that Micheal and God are one and the same person simply because his name means 'Who is like God?' 1 Thessalonians 4:16 says that Micheal is the archangel and testifies also that he is the Lord Jesus Christ. One person can have more than one name, each used on a different occasion, right?
If Micheal the archangel is Jesus the Christ, and Jesus had said that: "I and my Father are one.". Jesus says he is one with the Father, yet you claimed that Michael and God are not one.
Also, I did not say the Jehovah Witness are dangerous. From what I understand, the Jehovah Witness refuses to bow or knee to Jesus. Is that correct? I cannot agree that Michael and Jesus are the same person. Jesus is also known as the Word, the Word was God.
@Agnishom, don't you think you're jumping ahead of things? You're judging the book even before knowing what it says. This book quotes Bible texts and gives a deep and accurate understanding of them. In any case, if you don't what to search through the book, then LET SCRIPTURE EXPLAIN SCRIPTURE. The best way to learn about the Bible is by examining the Bible itself. While at that, you must also believe and acknowledge that you will know the truth only from the Bible and not what anybody can postulate.
The JW believes the Michael is Jesus and Jesus is not God. Do you believe in that?
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? - Hebrews 1:5
To which of the angels did God ever say,
“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet”?
Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
- Hebrews 1:13-14