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Example 0.(TV) < 1 Because (TV) Never Ends (TD) Must Always Be The Same Length As (TV)
We Know That TV / TD = 9 Is True So 0.(TV) = 0.(9) Where 0.(9) < 1
To LQ
Quote:" But that wouldn't work either ofcourse, since he even shaves the beardless I asume. "
A.R.B
But the Barber can of course use IMAC hair removal cream on anyone!.....................................
To luca-deltodesco
Quote:" (1) pi is not a random number, (2) it is not a recurring number, (3) it is not infinite "
A.R.B
(1) Show us a Pattern?
(2) Show us how it Ends?
(3) Show us how it Ends?
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GENIUS ANSWER TO THE INFINITE/RECURRING 0.9 PROBLEM By Anthony.R.Brown 04/06/07.
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TV = " The total value for the amount of Infinite/Recurring 0.9's from the Start Onwards "
TD = " The amount of Decimal places Infinite/Recurring 0.9 has Travelled in the Sequence "
TV / TD Will always = 9
Example1 9 / 1 = 9 Example2 18 / 2 = 9 Example3 8991 / 999 = 9
Infinite TV / Infinite TD = 9
The above Proves TV can never Equal 1
To egeniius
Quote:" Pi is exactly three!" - Professor Frink "
A.R.B
Must have been the Biggest fool!.......................................................................................
To luca-deltodesco
Quote:" lol i dont even remember writing my above post but i stick by it, an on the verge passing out drunk, is more mathematically able than you it would appear. "
A.R.B
Infinitely Impossible!.......................................................................................................
To Maelwys
Quote" So if I have $10, and I give Sekky $10, then how much money do I have left? "
A.R.B
NOTHING!..
Except! Sekky would always argue that 100% Answer!
To ephemere
Quote:"
To illustrate that 4 > π, circumscribe a square around a circle of diameter 1 and compare perimeters. Note that that has nothing to do with the induction part of the proof. "
A.R.B
If you Believe 4 > π then you must also Believe 1 > Infinite/Recurring 0.9
Because Both are Infinite/Recurring! π being an Infinite/Recurring Number! Random in Appearance!.........................................................................................................
To ephemere
Quote:" I just happened upon this ridiculous thread while googling something.
Claim: n > π for all integers n >= 4.
Proof:
n = 4: 4 > π.
n > 4: Assume n-1 > π. Then n > n-1 > π. "
A.R.B
Can you prove the Value of Pi
The Induction Challenge!
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Anyone like to try and put forward a 100% Proof for any Math Problem/Calculation
Where the Problem/Calculation contains ( Pi ) within it!
A.R.B
So there we have it! the True Value for Infinite/Recurring 0.9 IS! Infinite/Recurring 0.1 < 1
We dont have to know how many Decimal places! just that 0.(n) will always be < 1
A.R.B
Wonderful Stuff George,Y
I love it when they Rattle your Cage ( meant in the nicest possible way! )
A.R.B
To Maelwys
Quote:" Why? Why aren't I allowed to perform grade 4 math on the equation to come up with a valid answer? Why must the only possible answer to that simple equation be the complex one? "
A.R.B
Example N = 9.2837163847 now N / N = 1 to show how you can make any Number = 1
To Maelwys
Quote:" Which is why we were asking what 1/1000 cases of THAT induction are not provable. "
A.R.B
The 1/1000 + 1 + 1 etc.......................................................................................................
To Maelwys
A.R.B
From your so called Start? 0.9 has to be Infinitely/Recurred Only!! as 1.111...x 0.9
which equals 0.999...
To Maelwys!
A.R.B
Dont tell me! tell Sekky! ( The Mirror Man/Person? )
Quote:" Anthony, define your proposition, P(n), of the example you seem to be using.
Oh, by the way, failure to do so will just invalidate your claim, so drop the ad-hominem and just do it. "
A.R.B
For the Sequence 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.......etc. It's Impossible for Induction to Prove if the Number Sequence will End as an Odd Number or an Even Number!.....................................................
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INFINITE/RECURRING : THE FINAL CONCLUSION : By Anthony.R.Brown 01/06/07.
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(1) All Infinite/Recurring Number/Values have a Start Value the reason being it has to be known what are being Infinitely/Recurred before a Number/Value can be Infinitely/Recurred.
(2) All Infinite/Recurring Number/Values that Start with Zero then a Decimal point will always have a Value less than One Example: 0.(n) < 1
(3) All Infinite/Recurring Number/Values that Start with One or Greater than One! then a Decimal point will always have a Value Greater than One Example: 1.(n) > 1
(4) Exception to (2) & (3) above All Infinite/Recurring Number/Values that Start with One then a Decimal point will always have a Value Equal to 1 where (n) has Infinite/Recurring Zero's Example: 1.(000...) = 1
(5) The Infinite/Recurring Number/Value for (n) regarding size! Does not decide if the Infinite/Recurring Number/Value is > 1 or < 1 except (4) above where (n) are Zeros
(6) Infinite/Recurring Example ( 1 / 0.9 ) x ( 0.9 ) = 0.( 999...) or as 0.(n) < 1
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MATH PROBLEMS INDUCTION CAN'T PROVE 100%
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(1) Math Problems that use ( Pi ) Calculations any where within the Problem.
(2) Any other Infinite Math Problems
To mikau
Quote:" You claim that no one has shown the math, or provided a proof that 0.999... is infact equal to 1, but you really are only denying the validity of the proofs we have already given because YOU say they are invalid! "
A.R.B
All you have to do is show the Math from 0.999...(9) to 1 then you May have a Proof? so far AGAIN! no one has!..............................................................................................................
To mikau
Quote:" Anthony, we are talking about an infinite number of 9's. Infinite! Your program is NOT infinitly recursive unless it prints an endless stream of 9's. ENDLESS as in, no last digit. "
A.R.B
It's not my program that stops" an endless stream of 9's. ENDLESS as in, no last digit." It's the Computer Language! Plus the Lack of Power from Any known Computer!.................................
To Sekky!
A.R.B
You are just too.. for words!......have a look at the Posts and you may also Remember??
To Maelwys
Quote:" Okay, what's the 1 case in 1000 that you can't prove with this? "
A.R.B
you have a shorty memory! 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9..Odd or Even?
To Sekky "ITS ABOUT TIME YOU SHOWED SOMETHING!"
A.R.B
Good point George,Y
But some programs have helped! like the "Four Colour Theorem Problem? " Example!
A.R.B