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#1427 Re: Help Me ! » I need to integrate those functions » 2006-03-29 14:55:36

e[sup]0[/sup]=1   (1)
if you are confused, recommand you this websiteif you accept 1, we can go on to discuss the upper limit
Limit<x->infinity>e[sup](t - 1/b)x[/sup] = ?
it depends

t-1/b>0, after altering:
(e[sup]x[/sup])^(t-1/b) the base diverges, and the power also diverges, for t-1/b>0 and  the power growes bigger and bigger as the base does so. no answer.

t-1/b=0,  e[sup]0[/sup]=1 the limit is 1

t-1/b<0, after altering
(e[sup]-x[/sup])^(1/b-t)
The base is always positive and grows smaller and smaller when x goes larger and larger. 1/b-t>0, thus the power goes smaller as the base goes smaller ( 0.001[sup]0.36[/sup] < 0.01[sup]0.36[/sup] ) the base's limit is zero, and the power's limit is also zero. the limit is 0.

you can do the rest yourself

#1428 Re: Help Me ! » I need to integrate those functions » 2006-03-28 21:20:34

gnitsuk ,you are a better teacher than me, i should say. cool

moreover, i want to say a few words to RickyGeorge

You don't need to be confused by the arguement by the two parts of your id

Actually, mathematicians have carefully chosen a defination to avoid the "approaching vs being" controversy.

They define an indefinite integral as the limit that a definate integral approaches. so the same symbol may mean different things with regard to whether an infinity or an undefined point is involved.You can consult to your caculus book and check out if these two types of integrals are  in an advanced chapter.

whether being or approaching is not that important if you accept a consept that math itself is a theory, which is an approximition. As a philosopher once put it "You cannot find two idendical leaves" --1+1=2 is nonetheless, an approximation, too

#1429 Re: Help Me ! » Integration question? » 2006-03-24 18:27:05

6th



(yu)'=y'u+yu'   (yu)'dx= (y'u+yu')dx= udy+ydu

∫udy= ∫(yu)'dx -∫ydu =yu-∫ydu

use this to solve Q2

#1430 Re: Help Me ! » Integration question? » 2006-03-24 16:38:32

∫ e^(tx) / β  e^(-x/β)  dx
do you mean it by ∫e[sup]tx/β[/sup]e[sup]-x/β[/sup] dx ?
or ∫e[sup]tx[/sup]/(β e[sup]-x/β[/sup]) dx?

#1431 Re: This is Cool » Euler's forumula » 2006-03-24 01:21:01

Never mind. we just have different angles yikes

#1432 Re: This is Cool » I disagree with » 2006-03-24 01:18:03

Ricky wrote:

And I'm not sure if I can explain two in any other meaningful way than 1+1.

well, i may 1+1 in some way.

but 0.111... can be explained as infinite numbers adding together (different from varying variable), if you don't insist on interpreting it as drawings of 1s

#1433 Re: This is Cool » I disagree with » 2006-03-24 01:14:16

Any way, you need to add a belief first.

it's like believing convergence before solving a limit out.

#1434 Re: Help Me ! » Integration question? » 2006-03-23 14:04:05

i'm not good at integration and i'm not sure whether i did it correct or not

1st tech

since you wanna find its integral, or antiderivative, F(x) is one of the answers if its derivative is truely the one whose derivative you wanna find

2nd tech

F(x)+Cs  share the same derivative with F(x), F(x)+C is also the antiderivative of F'(x)

3rd tech

given another one function satisfying G'(x)=F'(x) G(x) must be of the form F(x)+C

for (G(x)-F(x))'=G'(x)-F'(x)=0 and only C'=0

Conclusion: once you've found a function F(x) whose derivative is the one you wanna integrate, F(x)+c represents any its antiderivative

4th tech

(Cf(x))'=C(f(x))' or=Cf'(x) where C is a constant

5th tech

f'(x)=dy/dx x is any variable defined in domain

hence x itself could be a function too, as long as its value vary in the domain

x=g(z) g'(z)=dx/dz

it makes sense that

dy/dx*dx/dz=dy/dz

hence dy/dz= (f(g(z)))' of z=dy/dx dx/dz= f'(x) g'(z)=f'(g(z)) g'(z)

substitude x for z in the formula above

using tech 3 tech4 and tech5, do you understand how to solve problem 1 now?

#1435 Re: Help Me ! » Grand Theft Auto: Maths Edition?? » 2006-03-23 13:39:55

i used a CAS, but the solution is tedious... and too long to put it here.

Extremely recommand Mathsisfun's empirical formula.

Another reason i recommand it is that there hardly is a global solution due to the failure to express air resistance subject to different speeds.

#1436 Re: This is Cool » Euler's forumula » 2006-03-23 13:31:53

because in order to prove Euler's formula, we commonly use Taylor series.

And both Sine and Cosine Taylor series are derived via making derivatives (i don't know how to use a single verb to say it) of themselves.

Sine's derivative's proof has an essential part:

Sin(x+Δx) - Sin(x) = 2Sin((x+Δx-x)/2)Cos((x+Δx+x)/2)=2Sin(Δx/2)Cos(x+Δx/2)

More or less does cosine's rolleyes

#1437 Re: This is Cool » I disagree with » 2006-03-23 13:18:58

baaba wrote:

The proof fails because of circular logic. For the proof to be valid, it must be known that 0.999... is a rational number, however the only way to know that is to prove that 0.999... equals 1 in another way, thus making the "easy" proof obsolete.

Now i couldn't agree with it more

#1438 Re: This is Cool » I disagree with » 2006-03-23 13:17:48

0.111...123 is a number too, uh??

#1439 Re: This is Cool » Euler's forumula » 2006-03-23 03:22:44

Though a very good angle to memorize those formulas up

#1440 Re: This is Cool » Euler's forumula » 2006-03-23 03:21:31

Circular proof, i am sorry to say

Why don't you explore other applications, to which cannot be solved simply within trigonometric formulas?

eg.

Sin[A] Sin[b] Sin[C]

#1441 Re: This is Cool » I disagree with » 2006-03-23 03:17:21

What do you mean by Two?

You assume your number is real.

#1442 Re: Help Me ! » Re-Arraning!!!! » 2006-03-23 03:14:34

(Ns - N) / (Ns)=Ns/Ns-N/(Ns)=1-1/s

As long as S=1-1/s, no matter what N is ,the equation S = (Ns - N) / (Ns)
is valid. That means N is Undetermined by this equation! (N can be any number)

another example a+2N=a+N+N, can you solve N out?

#1443 Re: Help Me ! » How do I do this? » 2006-03-23 03:09:05

By the way, is SAT that HaaaaarD?

#1444 Re: Help Me ! » How do I do this? » 2006-03-23 03:07:34

Yeah, as Mr Hollis put in his Caculus book, we are using sum of infinite series IMPLICITLY.

Numbers are a theory, "theory" means approximation

0.99... is accurate to leave perhaps only one particle uncollected from recursively cutting a cake into equally 10 pieces, then collecting 9 and leaving the other one to be next round cut-ee.

#1446 Re: Help Me ! » Integration question? » 2006-03-23 02:58:33

Suggest you to get a Derive software

i am bored with integration solving, haha

1) [e^(-x/β)]'=e^(-x/β) (-x/β)'= - 1/β e^(-x/β)

∫ 1/β e^(-x/β)  dx = -e^(-x/β)+C

2) ∫ x/β e^(-x/β)  dx =  ∫xd(-e^(-x/β)) = -∫xd(e^(-x/β))= -xe^(-x/β)+∫e^(-x/β)dx =  -xe^(-x/β) - βe^(-x/β)+ C

i am tired...

#1447 Re: This is Cool » Water pressure » 2006-03-23 02:43:58

My recent experiment showed the difference between a theory and reality neutral

#1448 Re: This is Cool » I disagree with » 2006-03-23 02:36:55

No I'm not.  It's goes on infinitely long, and thus is never ending.  You can never reach then end. ----------


Thus i am not sure if the result 0.1 0.11 0.111 0.11...1 (k 1's), =>0.11...11 (k+1 1's) gotten from mathematical induction could catch up your number, for digits of your number never ends, my never ends, either.

Similar to your argument, infinity-infinity is an indeterminate form i don't know if  my infinite 1's could equal yours.

i don't know how to compare with my  step by step growing number with your existing never ending "number", mathematical induction doesn't garantee this, what it does say is  divided to a finite digit, it can be divided to 1 more digit.

#1449 Re: Help Me ! » Grand Theft Auto: Maths Edition?? » 2006-03-22 00:51:55

A Computer Algebra System (CAS) software will do.

Mathsisfun's function is very good for a lot of cases. why don't you try that one (160/EA)0.9 ?

#1450 Re: Help Me ! » How to use DeMoivre's formula? » 2006-03-22 00:40:34

if your question is (3/5+i4/5)[sup]100[/sup]=?the solution is words below

Key theories:

(1) (cosa+i sina)(cosb+i sinb)
= cosa cosb - sina sinb + (sina cosb + cosa sinb)i

= cos(a+b)+ sin(a+b)i

(cosa+i sina)(cosa+i sina)(cosa+i sina) = (cos2a+isin2a)(cosa+i sina) =cos3a+isin3a

Similarly, (cosx+i sinx)[sup]k[/sup]=cos(kx)+i sin(kx)......(1b)

cos(x)²+sin(x)²=1    (3)

any a+bi can be expressed as
a+bi = (a²+b²)(a+bi)/(a²+b²) = (a²+b²) (a/(a²+b²)+b/(a²+b²) i)
a/(a²+b²) and b/(a²+b²) satisfy cos(x) and sin(x) in equation(3) . Actually we need  not point out angle x explicitly sometimes, besides, i forgot the formula! tongue

(a+bi)[sup]k[/sup]= (a²+b²)[sup]k[/sup](...)  (4)

As for this case,

(3/5)²+(4/5)²=1 angle x could be arcsin(3/5)

the answer is cos[100arcsin(3/5)]+i sin[100arcsin(3/5)]

As far as i can reach what

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