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#76 Re: Help Me ! » Expression As A Single Quotient » 2024-09-22 02:29:48

Bob wrote:

Bob

Nicely-done. I don't know how to use LaTex.

#77 Re: Help Me ! » Simplify Each Expression » 2024-09-21 18:10:02

Bob wrote:

16 is a power of 2 so it's worth re-writing this with powers of 2

You can extract 2x out of that first expression leaving (2x)^1/3 which becomes a common factor in both terms.

I started the second and got to wondering if that last term should be (8x^3y^3)^(1/3).

It simplfies nicely if that power is 1/3 rather than 1/2.

Bob

You are right about the second problem.  It is a typo at my end.

The correct problem is 8xy  - (25x^2•y^2)^(1/2) + (8x^3•y^3)^(1/3).

I can now proceed on my own.

I will also edit the original post.

#78 Re: Help Me ! » Identifying a Prime Polynomial » 2024-09-21 17:55:29

Bob wrote:

Oh,  tricky. There's a graph plotter here: https://www.mathsisfun.com/data/function-grapher.php

But is that acceptable  as a proof of primeness? Not sure.

All quadratics have a single minimum or maximum point (ie. the bottom of the U shape if the x^2 term is positive)

So I think an acceptable non calculus method would be (1) use a graph plotter to find the minimum point then (2) show it is a minimum by evaluating the quadratic just left and just right of that point, because bigger values there show you really have identified the minimum. 

I don't know how else you could do this, sorry.

edit: I'm being stupid. shame     Of course there's a way. Evaluate b^2 - 4ac. If it's negative there's no real square root so no factors.

Bob

Ok. The graphing method as you suggested works. You also said to evaluate the discriminant b^2 -"4ac. I will try both methods to see if the trinomial is prime or not.

#79 Re: Help Me ! » Gauss and freefalling objects » 2024-09-21 09:22:43

Bob wrote:

From the (newtonian) equations of motion for a object  falling from rest with  an acceleration g (ok to take this as 10m/s/s) the final velocity is given by v = 0.5gt^2

So when t = 0.1   v = 0.05
              t = 0.2   v = 0.2
              t = 0.3   v = 0.45

................................................

              t = 1     v = 5

The v values aren't in arithmetic progression so that formula won't work.

Bob

Is this a physics problem? Objects falling implies physics.

#80 Re: Help Me ! » Identifying a Prime Polynomial » 2024-09-21 09:21:10

Bob wrote:

If you are able to graph the expression then a prime expression will not cross the x axis.

For f(x) = x^2 + x + 1      df/dx = 2x+1 so the turning point is at x = -1/2

d2f/dx^2 = 2 implies the turning point is a minimum.  f(-1/2) = 3/4

This means that the lowest point on the graph is at (-1/2, 3/4) so it never crosses the x axis.

Your method for the first part is ok but, as you have discovered, another approach is needed for more complicated quadratics.

Bob

I had no idea that this kind of problem could be solved by graphing. By the way, I have not never taken calculus. So, please no derivative and/or integration methods for now.

#81 Help Me ! » Simplify Each Expression » 2024-09-21 03:11:35

Oculus8596
Replies: 2

Simplify each expression. Assume that all variables are positive when they appear.


1. (16x^4)^(1/3) - (2x)^(1/3)



2. 8xy - (25x^2y^2)^(1/2) + (8x^3y^3)^(1/3)

#82 Help Me ! » Expression As A Single Quotient » 2024-09-21 03:07:30

Oculus8596
Replies: 4

Write each expression as a single quotient in which only positive exponents and/or radicals appear.


1. (1 + x)/[(2x^(1/2)] + x^(1/2), where x > 0



2. [(9 - x^2)^(1/2) + x^2(9 - x^2)^(-1/2)]/(9 - x^2), where
-3 < x < 3

#83 Help Me ! » Identifying a Prime Polynomial » 2024-09-21 02:46:46

Oculus8596
Replies: 4

Show that x^2 + 9 is prime.

I will first list the pairs of integers whose product is 9.

1, 9

-1, -9

3, 3

-3, -3

2. Compute their sums.

1 + 9 = 10

-1 + (-9) = -10

3 + 3 = 6

-3 + (-3) = -6

I can also say x^2 + 9 = x^2 + 0x + 9 and none of the sums added above equal 0. This leads me to conclude that x^2 + 9 is prime.

1. Do you agree?

2. How is this done for a trinomial?

Sample:

Show that x^1 + x + 1 is prime.

#84 Re: Help Me ! » Right Triangle Prove » 2024-09-20 23:24:05

Bob wrote:

That's it. In any triangle if a^2 + b^2 = c^2 then you may conclude that the triangle is right angled.

Bob

Wonderful. Work is completed. I thought the right side needed to look like the left side of a^2 + b^2 = c^2.

#85 Re: Help Me ! » Long Division » 2024-09-20 23:22:35

Bob wrote:

A long time ago, when I was preparing for my A level exams (age 18) I did two things for practice.

Starting with an A4 piece of paper I expanded that as a determinant into 27 terms each with three letters.

Then I reversed that using a different order to make, say, this:

which demonstrates a property of determinants.

It's hard work and you have to be carefully accurate not to miss a term.

Starting with a quadratic with integers coefficients but which won't factorise easily I would do the formula 'in my head'. ie. remember each calculation answer and carry it forward to the next stage in my head. It's hard work but these two things had two big advantages. (1) It trains the brain to do hard stuff and (2) it teaches you to be very careful with the algebra.

I think of it as similar to an athlete doing weight training.  They may not be using weights in their sport but it develops muscle, flexibilty and stamina. Now I'm reminded I'm going to give it a go again to try and keep away from dementia.

Bob

This is why I solve math problems. It helps to keep my brain cells alive. I haven't played woth a 3 by 3 matrix in a few years. I need to watch a few video clips to refresh my memory.

#86 Re: Help Me ! » Undefined for Different Reasons » 2024-09-20 21:11:18

Bob wrote:

1. I'm happy with your repeated subtraction argument. As multiplication can be thought of as repeated addition my method and yours have the same root.  Yours gets to infinity more neatly so I'll adpot it in the future.

2. This is exactly my argument. smile

Bob

We both reached the same correct street, so to speak.

#87 Re: Help Me ! » Factor Completely » 2024-09-20 21:09:52

Bob wrote:

Consider x^3 + 1.  The factor theorem can be used here. Set x = -1 and x^3 + 1 evaluates to zero. This means (x + 1) is a factor.


x^3 + 1 = (x+1)(x^2 -x +1)

Bob

The sum of cubes works just the same.

#88 Re: Help Me ! » Right Triangle Prove » 2024-09-20 21:08:31

Bob wrote:

It's just two more lines to the result.

Bob

(m^2 - n^2)^2 + 4m^2n^2 = c^2

(m^2 - n^2)(m^2 - n^2) + 4m^2n^2 = c^2

m^4 - 2m^2n^2 + n^4 + 4m^2n^2 = c^2

m^4 + 2m^2n^2 + n^4 = c^2

Where do we go from here?

#89 Re: Help Me ! » Long Division » 2024-09-20 20:51:22

Bob wrote:

When you do numeric long division, you're more likely to succeed with errors if you keep the thousands, hundreds, tens and units neatly in columns.  The zero place holders (yes, that's the term) help with the algebraic version. I did this by hand first on a sheet of plain A4 paper. It took about a third of the page to complete.

Bob

It's algebraic practice more than anything else. I don't recall ever working on a problem like this involving the variable "a" as an integer.

#90 Re: Help Me ! » How Far Can You See? » 2024-09-20 12:15:47

harpazo65 wrote:
KerimF wrote:

Which part of the ship appeared?
I mean, isn't its height important too?

The height of the ship is important but perhaps not for this particular question. The problem does not give the ship's height. By the way, this problem does involve the curvature of Earth.

I will plug the data given into the formula.

d^2 + (3960)^2 = [(3960) + (6/5280)]2

Plugging that into my calculator, I get approximately 3 miles.

What do you say?

d ≈ 3 miles.

I have seen this problem many times in various forums.
I also got about 3 miles in my calculation.

#91 Re: Help Me ! » Undefined for Different Reasons » 2024-09-20 12:12:54

Bob wrote:

Division is defined as the inverse process to multiplication.

So, for example, we know that  6 x 8 = 48. This leads to 48 ÷ 8 = 6.

To attach a meaning to 48 divided by 8 we can ask "What number times 8 gives 48?"

So, a/0 would mean asking "What number times 0 gives a?" You cannot find a number to answer this question.

Instead of 0, you could consider a very small number instead of 0.  Let's choose a = 6 and divide by 0.1. We get an answer of 60.

Divide by 0.01 and we get 600. Divide by 0.001 and  we get 6000.  So as the divisor gets smaller the answer gets bigger so we might say as the divisor tends to zero the answer tends to infinity. This is useful when trying to sketch a graph.

What about 0 ÷ 0 ?

For this the question would be "What number times 0 gives 0?"  This time there's no shortage of answers as every number times 0 gives 0. So we have to say the answer is indeterminate.

In differential calculus  for a general point (x,y) we construct a chord by joining {x,f(x)} to {x + h, f(x+h)} and calculate it's gradient: {f(x+h) - f(x)} / {h}

As h tends to zero this gradient may tend to a limit and that enables us to assume the gradient at the point is that limit.  It works for lots of functions, so in those special circumstances 0/0 can be given a value.

Bob


Here's my take on it:

1. a/0 (where a ≠ 0): Division as Repeated Subtraction.
The Concept: Division can be thought of as repeated subtraction. For example, 12 / 4 asks “How many times can we subtract 4 from 12 until we reach 0?”. The answer is 3. The Problem: If you try this with a/0, you run into a wall. How many times can you subtract 0 from ‘a’ to reach 0?

You can subtract 0 infinitely, and you’ll never actually reach 0. This leads to an infinitely large result, which is undefined in standard arithmetic. Do you agree? If not, why not?


2. 0/0: The Ambiguity Problem
The Concept: Let’s think about division in terms of multiplication. If you have the equation a / b = c, it can be rewritten as a = b * c.

The Problem: With 0/0, we’re essentially asking: “What number, when multiplied by 0, equals 0?” Here’s the catch – any number multiplied by 0 equals 0.

This means, as I see it, there’s no single, unique answer. The result is ambiguous, and therefore, undefined.


My Conclusion:

a/0 (a ≠ 0) is undefined because it represents an infinitely large value.

0/0 is undefined because it represents an ambiguous value, with infinitely many possible solutions.

Do you agree?

#92 Re: Help Me ! » Long Division » 2024-09-20 10:58:55

Bob wrote:

I'm hoping you can do 'ordinary' long division with numbers. The method is similar. It's hard to show the whole process in a thread so I'll just try to get you started.

                                                   x^4      +ax^3
                              _________________________________________________
                              |
            x - a           |    x^5      + 0x^4     + 0x^3     +0x^2     + 0x      -a^5
                                   x^5       - ax^4
                                  ______________ -
                               
                                    0          +ax^4     + 0x^3
                                                +ax^4   -a^2x^3

etc

The method is easiest to use if you take great care to keep the powers of x in neat columns.  It looks ok on my laptop screen. Hope it stays that way for your screen.

Bob

The terms in the radicand with 0 as coefficient are called place holders. Is this right? This is also a bit tedious and thus requires extra work to be completed on paper.

#93 Re: Help Me ! » Factor Completely » 2024-09-20 10:55:54

Bob wrote:

You might spot an immediate factorisation but if not here's how to force it.

Let y = x^3 and the expression becomes y^2 + 2y +1 which can be factored into two identical factors,.

Putting x back into one of those and you're down to a cubic.  Substitute x = 1 and the expression is zero so x-1 nust be a factor. Extracting that leaves a quadratic which cannot be factored further.

Bob


Can x^6 be expressed as (x^3)^2?

I can then say y = x^3.

The given polynomial becomes y^2 + 2y + 1.

y^2 + 2y + 1 factors out to be (y + 1)(y + 1).

I can back-substitute to get (x^3 + 1)(x^3 + 1),which equals (x^3 + 1)^2.

Can the sum of cubes be applied to further factor x^3 + 1?

#94 Re: Help Me ! » Right Triangle Prove » 2024-09-20 10:49:11

Bob wrote:

hi Oculus8596

Welcome to the forum.

opposite integer :- the number that is the same distance from zero but with the opposite sign.

This restriction is unnecessary as the result follows even when m and n are any real numbers.

Start with  a^2 + b^2 = (m^2 - n^2)^2 + 4m^2n^2

Continue with the algebra until you reach c^2

Pythagoras theorem works 'in reverse' so a^2 + b^2 = c^2 is sufficent to prove the right angle.

Bob

The algebra is a bit tedious but doable.

#95 Help Me ! » Factor Completely » 2024-09-19 02:13:37

Oculus8596
Replies: 4

Factor the polynomial completely.

x^6 + 2x^3 + 1

#96 Help Me ! » Long Division » 2024-09-19 02:11:44

Oculus8596
Replies: 6

Divide (x^5 - a^5) by (x - a).

#97 Help Me ! » Right Triangle Prove » 2024-09-19 02:09:54

Oculus8596
Replies: 6

Suppose that m and n are positive integers with m > n. If a = m^2 - n^2, b = 2mn, and c = m^2 + n^2, show that a, b and c are the lengths of the sides of a right triangle.

#99 Re: Help Me ! » Find CST (Central Standard Time) » 2024-09-18 16:25:41

Yes, it is right. Thank you for showing your work.

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