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Bob
No need. Look on the left for something that is also on the right. If found cancel them to make a simpler equation.
eg k squared will go.
Bob
Very close but not quite. You seem to have lost the equals sign.
Do some cancelling eg k squared
becomes
Please try again. ![]()
Bob
He sure did. So I think we'll take that as correct!
Now on to question 2.
As you don't yet know 'n' you cannot just write out the rows of Pascal's triangle. And your calc. won't be able to either because it'll want to know the value of n.
Luckily, there's a way of calculating the numbers for any row without having to know the ones before.
For the nth row it is:
The third and fourth terms both have coefficient B so we can put them equal
Most of that cancels out so over to you again. Simplify as much as you can. What are you left with?
Bob
Excellent!
So now we can put those terms equal to the ones given in the question.
Well. The first tells me something I already knew. Nice to have it confirmed that 2x2x2x2x2x2=64 but not much help with the problem.
The second has two unknowns, A and p so I'll leave that for the moment.
But
I can do something with.
Don't forget a minus times a minus is plus.
Get rid of the x^2 and we have
Time for your calculator I think as I haven't got one nearby.
So what do you make p?
Bob
Great.
So for power 6 you want
1 6 15 20 15 6 1
and then the terms are
I stopped at x squared because the question does too. (just corrected an error there. whoops)
Ok so far?
Bob
hi Bry,
That's what I was wondering.
Ok, have you 'done' the binomial theorem. That's the one with things like
or maybe you used Pascal's triangle?
Bob
hi Bry,
Good to 'hear' from you. This is the 'chat'.
Is your PE hw to roll about on the floor laughing?
Let's start with question 1. Have you understood how to do it?
Bob
Hi Brian
It is 19.21 GMT. Are you logged on at the moment? If yes, please reply and we'll have a 'talk' about your questions.
Bob
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifold
Bob
hi Leibgrangian,
Wow, that's a list! I suggest you start with
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomorphism.
Galois theory would take a year of posts!
Lamina is pronounced Lam to rhyme with Wham .. in .. a
Bob
hi aqa,
You seem to have been much more careful than me in considering all possible cases. I like all your suggestions. ![]()
Do you think I can still claim this as a total success for my teaching, as the 'pupil' has overtaken the 'teacher' ?
Bob
hi aqa
Maybe I am wrong but I think there is a break between
Row 1 (0, 1, *, 0, *, 0, *)
Row 2 (0, 0, 0, 1, *, 0, *)
Row 3 ( 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, *)Is a possible reduced echelon form for a 3 X 7 matrix.
and the next bit
How many different such forms for a reduced row echelon matrix are possible if the the matrix is 2 X 3??
Firstly, you are told what ref is.
Secondly, you are asked about ref for another matrix entirely.
So now, just think about 2 by 3 matrices. Forget about the example.
So the general format for 2 by 3 is
but we want ref. so what could this be?
The *s could be anything. These are the only ones I can think of.
Bob
hi aqa
It has got to be 40 years since I met reduced row echelon matrices (rrem) in my degree and I havent used them since, so Im a bit rusty.
Thats why (and it was late at night for me) I pointed you to Wiki. This site does get some criticism for lack of accuracy but Ive always found it good for mathematical topics.
Now Ive had a chance to think it through, Im ready to give you what is, I hope, a better answer.
The only use Ive come across for rrem is a way of solving simultaneous linear equations. (That is equations where there are no square, cube, or higher powers)
The procedure is no quicker or easier than other methods but it has the advantage that it is completely prescriptive ... you do exactly the same thing for every set of equations. So it is ideal if you want to write a computer program to solve equations. The Wiki page gives some pseudocode for this if you are interested and have the time to write and debug the program.
Ill demonstrate the procedure by way of an example. To use the procedure you must have all the equations in the form
Suppose the equations are
Step 1. Build a 3 by 4 matrix out of these numbers
Now to change into rrem
Step2. Divide the top row by its first element (2)
Step 3. Make new row 2 := 3 x row 1 - old row 2. Make new row 3 := row `1 - old row 3
later edit: Looking this over, I think this step may be back to front. The 'rust' had not quite cleared at this stage. But it works out ok so it doesn't matter a lot unless you are trying to build a computer procedure. If so, the later steps show the correct way to create the ones and zeros correctly.
This puts a one and two zeros into the first column.
Step 4.
Divide the second row by the second element in the row.
Step 5. Make new row 1 := old row 1 + 0.5 x row 2. Make new row 3 := old row 3 + 1.5 x row 2.
That has made the second column into a zero, a one and another zero.
Step 6. Divide row 3 by the third element in the row.
Step 7. Make new row 1 := old row 1 + 3/7 of row 3. Make new row 2 := old row 2 - 1/7 of row 3
Now you can translate that back into three equations
This procedure will always do that. If there are more equations than unknowns something funny will show whether the 'excess' equations are consistent with the ones you use to solve the equations. If you have insufficient equations then the procedure will not get completed.
Have you sorted out your original query? I have an answer if you are stuck. ![]()
Bob
hi
True. 'a' etc not zero is required to manipulate the equation at all, so I took it as given. Otherwise you get divide by zero problems in the original format.
Why do they have to be positive?
Bob
hi aqa
I think it means start with an entirely new 2 x 3 matrix in rref. How many of these can you find? (From the form of the question you put * for anything that is not a zero or one and count all such as one possibility.)
Bob
hi aqa
Have a look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduced_echelon_form
This may answer your query.
Bob
hi aqa,
You are welcome. Post again, if you need help.
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Bob
hi bobbym
My fault I'm afraid.
Post #11
gAr: I wasn't putting up the answer just yet because I was waiting for the OP to come back. Otherwise, why are we spending time on his problem? (except obviously, it's lovely to chat to you all). As he is off-line, you could edit it out now we've seen it.
I was getting a bit irritated that while I was answering
http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=14992
and suggesting the OP use Latex, yet another question was being constructed; again without a clear statement of what the question was.
(In fact, we still don't know for sure that this was the question.)
Then, while I was asking if I'd got the question correctly formulated, the OP logged out.
My apologies that I let that irritation show.
me = ![]()
Well anyway; plenty of help given, so it would be nice to get a response, wouldn't it?
Bob
Strictly (read the title of this thread)
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Bob
ps Am working on some new Smilies
pps gAr: Sorry I feel guilty now. I asked you to remove the answer and I've gone and plastered it back on. I'll work on a "Guilty look" Smily first. Meanwhile best fit = ![]()
Put your answer back and then it shows you have prior claim.
Here we go .....
separate the x and non x terms
move non x terms to RHS, and start to simplify
cancel abc from all denominators
put LHS over common denominator
simplify abc terms on LHS and cancel remainder of bracket with RHS, bring a+b+c across
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Bob
I'm adding it to my ever growing list of problems I'll come back to.
Bye for now,
Bob ![]()
hi phrontister
Methinks thou dost be too modest.
I've just searched your posts. hhhhhhhmmmmmmmm ![]()
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Bob
hi bobbym and gAr
Since it's a linear equation, one solution = the solution.
How do you justify it?
Well, it is 'symmetrical' in a, b and c (by which I mean, if you swap all instances of, say, a with those of, say, b, the equation is unchanged.
So the 'answer' must also be symmetrical; ie. whatever the 'a' bit looks like, the 'b' and 'c' bits will look the same. So that answer is an intelligent guess.
gAr: I wasn't putting up the answer just yet because I was waiting for the OP to come back. Otherwise, why are we spending time on his problem? (except obviously, it's lovely to chat to you all). As he is off-line, you could edit it out now we've seen it.
Cannot find a smily for 'being conspiratorial'
Bob
hi phrontister
Pretty much the same as mine.
I don't know how to express that in a better teaching form because I've forgotten everything I was taught at school!
Surely something must have stuck in there? You seem to be able to do multiplication, factorisation and addition. Didn't you learn that at school?
:)
Bob