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No, thats perfect thanks. I wrote that it's always true and I just wanted to make sure what I wrote was accurate. Thanks
I'm finishing my essay on the Unit Circle, and I just have a really quick question if someone could oblige.
The pythagorian identities in the unit circle state that, for example, cos^2 theta + sin^2 theta = 1. Does this work when you move all the way around the circle (for example, when the angle is 90 degrees, the triangle in the circle is just a line, so cos will be 0)
Well, speaking as a trainee teacher, the professor is always right
My tutor said I'd actually gone further with the investigation than he'd expected, so even though I didn't quite get the progressions part, it was still good enough to keep my grades in the higher section, so yay.
Hi and welcome
Thanks bobby.
Bob, you are a genius.
To both bob's, I really really appreciate your help with this. Geometry is a subject that I normally excel at, and as a result I feel the pressure when I just don't see any pattens or anything.
Yep. If I want to find the length of the new square: a^2+b^2 = c^2
I love pythagoras
All my other sketchpad work is already at the top mark, and they take our work as a whole (it's partly creating resources as well as finding out for ourselves) so I am thinking that maybe I shouldn't be trying to work out all the complex maths if I don't really have tim (it's due tomorrow and I have an essay due Tuesday).
That maybe I should just comment that it is in successive geometric progression and just give one example
He titled the work Geometric Progressions, but the assignment was given after a lesson on fractals.
I love it.
Can I just say, Maths is Fun, that your website is amazing (only just found the accompanying forum) and I've been using it when I tutor to try and get my pupils to look on your website because it is so informative and easy to understand.
Bob. I logged off just as you came on lol. I got too tired.
Yeah, that's how I worked it out. You have to keep the dividing fraction the same on each shape. So for example, on my first square I have kept it the same distance in fraction for every smaller square in that shape.
Oh, and bobby, thanks.
The exact wording isn't very clear. It says
Take a reqular ploygon
Dissect it in a way that leads to a smaller version of the same polygon
Repeat with the new polygon - the process can go on for ever.
The then gave some examples, the picture bobby kindly posted for me (without the red lines) demonstrates his example.
Then he writes:
What happens to the areas (ratios?)
What happens to the lengths of the sides?
Experiment with different starting polygons - do you always get the same ratios?
That's it. All he wrote. I'm doing it on geometer's sketchpad (which isn't the easiest program to use doing this)
Thanks guys for all your help.
Bobby, how did you work out those figures? We've not actually been taught any of this.
Yeah. That is the triangle I dissected at a third.
So you think you have the maths?
I don't even know how to google this to get some information on it. I know it's like fractals or something.
The red lines are just to show you that the lengths are not just cut, if you understand me
It's sort of like that bob, except I have 4 versions of each shape, each one where the dividing spiralling is at the same distance - so one is always at the half way mark, the next is always a third of the way in etc. And it's Square, Triangle and Hexagon
The actual question stares What happens to the areas? (ratios)
What happens to the lengths of the sides?
Experiement with different starting polygons - do you always get the same ratios?
Maybe I'm making it more complicated than it has to be, and I don't need to find a link with each separate shape, only that within each shape the areas have the same ratios. But I am aiming for the top marks
Go onto flickr and search amberzakfilmsuk for people. It's the only photo on my page, and it's a triangle.
I have the link. It most let me post it
Still keeps telling me I have to be a member to post links.
THanks for the welcome Bob.
Why can't I post pictures yet? I have more than 10 posts.
I found the ratios by dividing the bigger area by the smaller area.
The picture below is an example of what I am doing. This is the triangle directed at half way along the edge The problem with what you are saying, bob, is that as you can see by the red line, the length of P-Q is more than 1 third and less than 2 thirds of the length. So it isn't as easy a ratio as you said.
THIS IS REALLY INFURIATING. I still can't post pictures, but I've done 10 posts.
I really need you to see it or it won't name any sense
I understand that you need to protect against spam. I'm a moderator on a writing forum where we have big problems with Spam. But could you have another way of posting pictures that doesn't need a link, or else introduce posting links after 5 posts. I've found myself posting pointless posts just so I can show a picture to get some help.
Genius. Smart people
Yep, it's st. Patricks day in the UK and Ireland
Pi to i: Get real!
i to Pi : Get rational!
My advice (speaking as both a trainee teacher and as someone who who has studied for exams in the past) is don't try and do all the mock exams. Prioritise using two factors - firstly how soon is the exam and secondly how well do you know the topic. If you do one mock exam and you aced certain elements, but you needed improvement on other areas, then when you do the next mock paper, concentrate on the areas you needed more time with.
Don't burn yourself out before you get to the exams.
I am amberzak. I am going to start training as a maths teacher in September, and I am currently doing an intensive maths enhancement course. We have lots of deadlines looming.
I've not Studied maths since I was at school, so there are some things that may seem basic where my knowledge is missing. This is why I am on the maths enhancement course.
I am also happy to help people here as well.
Bob. That's it.
Bobbym, I can't put my table up. It won't let me put images up yet. I'll try and write it.
Triangle dissected at a half - Area Ratio 4, Length ratio 2
Triangle dissected at a Third - Area ratio 3, Length ratio 1.73
Triangle Dissected at Quarter - Area ratio 2.29, Length Ratio 1.51
Triangle Dissected at a Fifth - Area Ratio 1.92, Length ratio 1.39
Square dissected at a half - Area Ratio 2, Length ratio 1.41
Square dissected at a Third - Area ratio 1.80, Length ratio 1.34
Square Dissected at Quarter - Area ratio 1.60, Length Ratio 1.26
Square Dissected at a Fifth - Area Ratio 1.47, Length ratio 1.21
Hexagon dissected at a half - Area Ratio 1.33, Length ratio 1.15
Hexagon dissected at a Third - Area ratio 1.29, Length ratio 1.13
Hexagon Dissected at Quarter - Area ratio 1.23, Length Ratio 1.11
Hexagon Dissected at a Fifth - Area Ratio 1.19, Length ratio 1.09
Sorry I didn't reply last night. I was so exhausted.
Thanks