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#51 Re: This is Cool » 0.9999....(recurring) = 1? » 2012-11-23 23:10:33

Yes, well I have a lot of experience with this too.  It is probably my most argued thing to do with math, maybe the most argued thing in math in general.  I actually haven't argued it that heavily on this forum, but I have argued this with people so much and amazingly am not tired of it yet.  I want to argue this further because I feel that 0.¯9 ≠ 1, however, proving this is the issue.  You can argue anything, but there is always a counter argument.  Any proof of it can be argued from a different angle.  The same can arguably be said true for those who argue against the idea that 0.¯9 = 1.  Though I'm sorry, I can never ... personally accept any number equaling a different number, as it defies its very definition.  Though as I said earlier, I will not continue to argue it either, as for that reason, it is futile to go forward.  However, I do not mind following it either, as maybe sometime, they might eventually change this in mathematics finally (one can always hope...).

I should note though, I don't quite understand the start of the universe, end of the universe thing, mind explaining it?

#52 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » help me » 2012-11-23 22:56:16

Trying to understand her?  Hmm.  I was just rather giving...support, and was curious (as this was one of the few times I was apart of the conversation rather then just reading things).  Also, that is usually why I give up trying to read topics like these, its pretty rare I even join in on the conversation, but this time I did as I'm still having trouble getting to sleep, seems like its going to be another all nighter sad.

#53 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Scientists, our benefactors? » 2012-11-23 22:49:06

So you overall felt worse?  Do you feel it was even worth the change in that case?

#54 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Scientists, our benefactors? » 2012-11-23 22:42:32

Hmm, so you were depressing your body and didn't like the results?  Did you recover from it okay?

#55 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » help me » 2012-11-23 22:36:25

Have a great rest of the day!  Hope things work themselves out...

#56 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Scientists, our benefactors? » 2012-11-23 22:34:37

Uh?  A joke?  But hmm, thinking more about that...  You didn't eat meat which certain meats are arguably more filling?  You could have also felt more hungry out of possibly lacking in certain nutrients your body was craving for?  If I keep thinking, I can probably come up with more...  Was it your intention to be so brief (like, possibly out of annoyance or something)?

It might sound a little hypocritical, but even though I do not like killing, I still eat meat and would like to try bugs too.  That more becomes a matter of survival, and in that sense, I guess I do kill in a much more rough life and death sense.  However, it is similar to when I said I'd never use self defense unless I had no other choice.  It is more a matter of survival, and strictly being a vegetarian or vegan you can much more easily miss out on the many nutrients you need to live, which in turn can end up killing me...faster.

#57 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » help me » 2012-11-23 22:24:15

Well, unless she told you it was something you did, you don't quite know it's because of you.  Something happened or changed, and you don't quite know that that is.  That can't just simply mean go and blame yourself.

#59 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » help me » 2012-11-23 22:15:32

I see, but I probably agree with bobbym, I don't think she holds it against you.

#60 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Scientists, our benefactors? » 2012-11-23 22:12:50

Oh, I see.  Yeah, I am sorry you had to go through that kind of situation.  I hope I am never included in those kinds of situations.  I for one aren't much on violence in the first place.  I have learned martial arts in the past, however, I would never use it on anybody or anything unless I had no other choice.  In the past, back when I used to live with my father, my sister was always terribly frightened of bugs.  I would always try to capture them and take them outside so as not to do any harm to them.  My dad always questioned why I don't just kill it, and I always responded with many reasons as to why, be he never seemed to understand.  My brother seemed to not care as much, and since I was always trying to release them, would always just call me to take care of it.

To get to the point, I honestly don't think I can take another's life, as I would probably take my own instead.  Even in cases of self defense, if I ever happened to kill someone as a result of it, I would most definitely feel great guilt towards it.  The issue is, I have never been in a situation like that before, and can't really say what I'd do for sure, as I could just be fooling myself right now.  After all, when it comes to a matter of life and death, instinct points towards you living, therefore fear might overtake my beliefs in that case...unfortunately.

#61 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » help me » 2012-11-23 22:00:44

I wouldn't mind hearing it, I'm just curious (sorry if I'm intruding).

Hmm, I can understand why you'd want to be different, but why not just be yourself?  You are already arguably different.

#62 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Scientists, our benefactors? » 2012-11-23 21:54:22

Oh, uh, hmm.  I'm a little bit confused, what is the most difficult question to answer?  Whether wanting to kill people is or isn't a good or bad thing?

#63 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » help me » 2012-11-23 21:50:06

Hmm, well I'm not the best with dealing with people, but have you ever tried to explain yourself (not justify)?  I'm just thinking it might help her to understand why you were acting the way you were.

Edit:  Why do you want to have aspergers, to prove you are different?

#64 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » help me » 2012-11-23 21:45:11

I don't know Agnishom, it seems to me bob bundy and bobbym are more right about you.  You also seem to only be defending yourself.  Out of curiosity, regardless if you are or aren't, do you want to have aspergers?

#65 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » help me » 2012-11-23 21:39:13

Hmm, seems I was mistaken, do both of you go offline and back online frequently?

#66 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Scientists, our benefactors? » 2012-11-23 21:38:03

No, I meant what you thought, sorry.  I was only asking based on my first question I guess leading into it being a little more specific, I tend to do that to better understand things.

#67 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » help me » 2012-11-23 21:36:00

Hmm, interesting article.  Oh, by the way, good mourning to you I guess.  I don't know what time it is where you are, but it's about 4:35 a.m. where I am.  It seems like they left though, but I'd say that is pretty good advice.  When he said he took a test on the internet that said he wasn't one I had my doubts and more thought similar to you and bobbym.  I don't know about the part about thinking you have a new illness every week or something, I might argue you might be a hypochondriac then (joking).

#69 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Scientists, our benefactors? » 2012-11-23 21:16:19

Hmm, so what do you think about wanting to kill, since they aren't actually doing it (going based off what you said where nothing inert is really good or bad)?

By the way, if the conversation becomes too...uncomfortable to talk about, just let me know and I'll stop.  I often take things more...philosophically, and become more curious about things as a result.  It can often lead people to being uncomfortable which is not my intention.

#70 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » help me » 2012-11-23 21:07:06

Okay, well I can understand certain things might be hard to explain.  There are still things I have difficulty explaining myself.  I would like to stress though having aspergers is more then just simply being, "different."  Arguably, that's what a lot of psychology is about, is defining all the differences between people, to greater or less extents.  Though, that isn't quite what I mean either.  I mean just know that because you may seem noticeably different then the people you are often with like at school, your interests fall under odder categories, stuff like that, that's not quite saying you have aspergers.

Aspergers is simply defined as the way bobbym put it, slight autism.  No one can define it completely clearly, but it more depends on whether or not you have most of the same symptoms or not.  Being "different" doesn't quite mean you have it either.  I'm only saying this because I've seen...many people self-diagnose themselves with aspergers mostly coming down to that reason, and they more noticeable do not have aspergers.

To bobbym,
Ah!  Sorry about that.  I'm not surprised I didn't catch that. sad

#71 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Scientists, our benefactors? » 2012-11-23 20:53:56

Hmm, so your not actually against the idea itself, but rather the people who try to implement it?

#72 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » help me » 2012-11-23 20:46:34

No don't worry, I don't.  I'm still curious why you think you thought you might have aspergers though.  Bobbym, why do you think he is a hypochondriac?  I've seen lots of people that think they have things and self-diagnose themselves.  Usually I tend to disagree with them, but you really believe he might be one, he didn't seem that obsessive to me...?

#73 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » help me » 2012-11-23 20:38:53

Oh!  Sorry, I guess I misunderstood what he meant there too...

#74 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » help me » 2012-11-23 20:37:19

Huh?  I'm only asking out of curiosity, you shouldn't doubt yourself because people don't believe in you.  Just more trying to figure out what you mean because I don't think I quite understood everything you meant when you said ...

Agnishom wrote:

I heard about that novel called "The Curious Incident of the Dog in Night Time" from my father when I was around 7
The nature of the protagonist intrigued me

Then I read the full novel for the first time when I was 10 but I didn't understand everything
I read the book again around 10 months ago and found more similarities between the protagonist and me and then found that That is called The Asperger's syndrome

There are a number of things which I do or which I have done and I think that theory about me fits in the most

From the idea I got, you are saying you have aspergers because of your similarity to the protagonist in the book, and noticing those similarities somehow indicates you might have aspergers.  I didn't feel I had a correct understanding unless this is what you meant?

#75 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » Scientists, our benefactors? » 2012-11-23 20:31:06

Ah, so your more similar then.  You mind if I ask you why?

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