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#501 Re: This is Cool » 0.9999....(recurring) = 1? » 2006-12-02 03:22:59

To Ricky!

Its Quite simple! I can also state that any number that has a . at the start! before the second part of the number! will always be smaller than 1
as in Infinite .9 will always be smaller than 1

#502 Re: This is Cool » 0.9999....(recurring) = 1? » 2006-12-01 02:05:56

To Ricky!

But how can any Number become! or is an Integer Number if it starts as . < 1

#503 Re: This is Cool » 0.9999....(recurring) = 1? » 2006-11-30 00:56:22

If all Infinite Numbers equalled an Integer Number as in Infinite 0.9 = 1 it would be much easier to just call them Integer Numbers!!

#504 Re: This is Cool » 0.9999....(recurring) = 1? » 2006-11-29 00:38:23

To luca-deltodesco!

The problem is it's impossible to know how many 9's there are in total!! because it's an Infinite Number! ie No End!.............................................................................................................

#505 Re: This is Cool » 0.9999....(recurring) = 1? » 2006-11-28 02:07:54

To luca-deltodesco

I am sorry but you cannot multiply an Infinite by 10 or change an Infinite Number!

#506 Re: This is Cool » 0.9999....(recurring) = 1? » 2006-11-27 03:13:01

LET,S MAKE THIS AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE!
CAN ANYONE SHOW HOW! USING MATH IT IS POSSIBLE TO MAKE A NUMBER THAT IS SMALLER THAN ANOTHER NUMBER BIGGER! WITHOUT USING ADDITION!
AS IN THE PROBLEM BELOW!

Infinite 0.9 (stage one) ( some how we have to make this part larger! ) = 1

#507 Re: This is Cool » 0.9999....(recurring) = 1? » 2006-11-25 03:38:59

In the real world, this is a problem.  But in mathematics, only you can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist.  So why dont you answer MY QUESTION! in a way that I have asked you to ANSWER IT! and dont just say things like "Why must I stick to numbers?" Do your best! im sure if you know what you are talking about you can do it!!

A.R.B

#508 Re: This is Cool » 0.9999....(recurring) = 1? » 2006-11-24 00:46:47

Ricky!

The problem is! you have not answered the question below,using only the numbers I have put forward! its that simple!

Infinite 0.9 ( Bridge this Gap with Math Please! )1

lets see your Math to show how 0.9 (Jumps) to become 1 ? and please dont say it already is! because as we all know Infinite 0.9 (stage one) starts its life smaller than 1 why should! or how is it possible to change its value,when it's an Infinite Number!

#509 Re: This is Cool » 0.9999....(recurring) = 1? » 2006-11-23 01:22:45

Ricky!

In the real world, this is a problem.  But in mathematics, we can not define your PROOF? where this problem does exist.  So we'll go ahead and do that now..." and try to understand what you are saying!!

So Ricky do you agree that an Infinite Number has No End!

#510 Re: This is Cool » 0.9999....(recurring) = 1? » 2006-11-22 03:22:45

A.R.B
SO LETS TRY AGAIN!!.........................................

Here is the Challenge!

Can anyone prove Infinite 0.9 = 1

The proof someone puts forward must be shown as a Mathematical Proof.
I can Prove Infinite 0.9 (Stage one) Starts with 0.9 which is less than 1 to Start with.
So for me to be proved wrong someone has to show the Mathematics on how to Bridge the Gap from 0.9 to 1.
This is all someone has to do?

Infinite 0.9 ( Bridge this Gap with Math Please! )1

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Ricky (the Moderator) has put forward

Let a = 0.999... throughout.
a is in A_0 = [0.9, 1]
a is in A_1 = [0.99, 1]
a is in A_2 = [0.999, 1]
a is in A_n = [0.999...n...9, 1]
Note that because of the infinite number of 9's, this statement will be true for any number of A_n.
But, A_0 is a subset of A_1 is a subset of A_2 is a subset of ... A_n is a subset of A_n+1 ...
Also, note that with any finite amount of 0.999..., we may get arbitrarily close to 1. Thus, for any e (epsilon) greater than 0, we may find a finite amount of 9's such that 1 - e < 0.999...
This means that any real number less than 1 is not in one of the A_n sets listed above. Also, any real number greater than 1 is obviously not.
However, by the nested interval property, and infinite series of intersections of closed intervals is non-empty. That is:
A_0 intersected with A_1 intersected with A_2 ....
Is not empty. But it contains no numbers less than 1 or greater than 1. Thus, it contains 1 and only 1. But remember that a is in every set A_0, ..., A_n, ... and thus, a = 1.
A.R.B
The problem with the above Proof?
Is that it does not show clearly! How to show...............

Infinite 0.9 ( Bridge this Gap with Math Please! )1

using the numbers above as a Math Equation etc.............
The only answer would be! What I have put forward below.

Infinite 0.9 ( Bridge this Gap with Math Please! )1
Infinite 0.9 (            + 0.1                  )= 1

The only problem with the answer above is that,it changes the Definition of an Infinite Number! ie having no end!
But its the only way to reach the Conclusion that Infinite 0.9 = 1 ?

So without using the above Answer?,can anyone show in a simple clear way!

Infinite 0.9 ( Bridge this Gap with Math Please! )1

#511 Re: This is Cool » 0.9999....(recurring) = 1? » 2006-11-20 02:35:45

So here is the Challenge!

Can anyone prove Infinite 0.9 = 1

The proof someone puts forward must be shown as a Mathematical Proof.
I can Prove Infinite 0.9 (Stage one) Starts with 0.9 which is less than 1 to Start with.
So for me to be proved wrong someone has to show the Mathematics on how to Bridge the Gap from 0.9 to 1.

This is all someone has to do?   Infinite 0.9 ( Bridge this Gap with Math Please! )  1

A.R.B

#512 Re: This is Cool » I disagree with » 2006-11-20 02:27:43

So here is the Challenge!

Can anyone prove Infinite 0.9 = 1

The proof someone puts forward must be shown as a Mathematical Proof.
I can Prove Infinite 0.9 (Stage one) Starts with 0.9 which is less than 1 to Start with.
So for me to be proved wrong someone has to show the Mathematics on how to Bridge the Gap from 0.9 to 1.

This is all someone has to do?   Infinite 0.9 ( Bridge this Gap with Math Please! )  1

A.R.B

#513 Re: This is Cool » I disagree with » 2006-11-18 01:27:47

Infinite 0.9 starts as 0.9 (stage one)

then Infinite 0.99  (stage two)

then Infinite 0.999  (stage three) etc.....................................



1 subtract 0.9 (stage one) = 0.1 this number is Infinite because it is a continuous difference!



so Infinite    0.9999999999999999999999999999999999.......



has Infinite  0.1111111111111111111111111111111111.......



running along side Infinite 0.9 for ever! the two numbers are never add together!



Resulting in an eternal difference of Infinite 0.1...................................................





A.R.B

#514 Re: This is Cool » I disagree with » 2006-11-17 00:00:30

In the Real World I have tried to find the end of the Universe! but its just not there!
As a human I will not accept  there is an End! when I see the so called end of an Infinite Number,by the Magic of Infinite 0.999999999999......becoming 1?
I will know behind this there will always be more .999999999999999999's for Ever!

#515 Re: This is Cool » I disagree with » 2006-11-16 00:25:11

Its impossible for Infinite 0.9 to ever = 1

Beacause there will always be a difference of Infinite 0.1

A.R.B

#516 Re: This is Cool » 0.9999....(recurring) = 1? » 2006-11-16 00:24:02

Its impossible for Infinite 0.9 to ever = 1

Beacause there will always be a difference of Infinite 0.1

A.R.B

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