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To luca-deltodesco
"When a CHILD! cant get their own way they normally SWEAR!!
give me your address and I will meet you!
To luca-deltodesco
Quote: " 1/3 is the same as 0.3"
Now you prove the fool you are!!!.......................................................................................
A.R.B
To luca-deltodesco ?
Or if you prefer!
A = (1/3 x 3) =
B = 1/3 x 3 =
Give both Values for A & B
To luca-deltodesco ?
Just answer the Question! you know so much!
B = 1/3 "Which = 0.333333333333333333333...........
Can you tell me the Value of A ?
A = (1/3)
AGAIN!
To luca-deltodesco ?
B = 1/3 "Which = 0.333333333333333333333...........
Can you tell me the Value of A ?
A = (1/3)
To luca-deltodesco ?
B = 1/3 "Which = 0.333333333333333333333...........
Can you tell me the Value of A ?
A = 1/3
To luca-deltodesco
Quote:
"you say that 1/3 × 3 = 1, you state that at [1]"
A.R.B
"No" I say A = (1/3 x 3) = 1 "this is quite different! and important!!"
Quote:
"you then say that 1/3 = 0.333...., you state that at [2], so you are saying that 1/3 and 0.333.... are exactly the same, they are equal"
A.R.B
"No I say! A = (1/3) is completely different from B = 1/3 "this is quite different! and important!!"
A.R.B
"The rest that you are saying! that I have said, is answered by the above (2) false Quotes: by you!
To MathsIsFun Administrator
A = (1/3) This is not Infinite! just 1 3rd of a whole Number!
B = 1/3
B = 0.333333333333333333................This is Infinite! (or as you say "Infinite is not "big", it is endless." )
B x 3 = 0.999999999999999................This is Infinite! (or as you say "Infinite is not "big", it is endless." )
To mathsyperson
Quote: "I think the main reason that people play the lottery is that £1 per week is a very small spend for someone who has a reasonable salary, so they hardly notice that it's not there and it's not a huge loss for them. However, they certainly would notice if they suddenly became a multi-millionnaire."
A.R.B
I heard of someone who done this 14 million times! they could have saved the Money! equivalent to winning the Lottery
To MathsIsFun
Quote:
"I think I shall write a program for this ... we can all choose numbers and have a daily draw. Maybe we can bet with Imaginary Numbers?"
A.R.B
No let's bet with Imaginary Money! that way when everyone who does not quite understand!,See's how much Money they would have Lost,may then stop pestering their parents! for Money to put on the lottery!
To Toast" is this a name?"
Quote:"But... there is nothing missing. You can't say that the smallest possible number is missing because there is no such thing. "
A.R.B
Only you said the smallest possible number is missing!
Decimal 0.9999999999........remains 0.9
A = (1/3 x 3) = 1
B = 1/3 = 0.333.....
B x 3 = 0.99999999999999..................
To Ultima Black Gate
Quote:
"I was wondering if something like a math intuition exists"
Yes!! for sure! Math and other things are solved in certain peoples minds,before they can actually explain How they have solved the problem!
Having forums like this! help a person to explain what they are trying to say,by the way other people question and answer.
There have been many examples where someone has said something! and everyone has disagreed with what that person is saying,then when its made clearer! everyone then says WOW!
Hi if you think you have a Chance with the "lottery!" 6/49
Place 49 Balls in a bag! and remove any six! then replace the six! and remove any six again!
do this every day for as long as you like!! and see how many times you get 6 correct!
this will save you real Money!
A.R.B
To luca-deltodesco, and MathsIsFun Administrator,
Lets make this more clear for you Both!
1/3 and 0.3333....etc... are different Numbers!
1/3 is a Number no one can write down! all we know is that its a third of a whole number!
0.3333..etc is a Number that is exactly what MathsIsFun Administrator Quoted:
"I think he is saying that 0.333... is an inaccurate way of representing (1/3)."
So providing we all agree 0.333..etc is inaccurate then we are getting somewhere!
B = 1/3 which now becomes 0.333..etc because its not enclosed in Brackets ()
Then B x 3 must equal 0.99999....etc as in Infinite 0.9 it does not have to be accurate! just
Infinite! i.e will always have the 0.1 missing!.........
A = (1/3) = "a third of a whole number!"
B = 1/3 = "The nearest decimal place Number i.e 0.3..."
To Ricky!
Quote:
"And how is it that you reach that conclusion? I don't agree with the first statement, but assuming it's true all you can say is that the glass contains less than 100%."
There are a lot of things you dont agree with! it would help your case,if you would first put forward you (FLT) Bet to me!! regardless of your source!
p.s as for your Quite above! "FILL A GLASS" is about trying to place 100% water within a "GLASS" not "GLASS ITSELF!" it just happens that because water cannot "FILL" everying hole within "GLASS" then its impossible to "FILL A GLASS" 100%..............
CONCLUSION!
A = (1/3 x 3) = 1 "A never equals 0.3... or 0.9.... in this Calculation within Brackets!"
B = 1/3
B "now equals 0.3......" B x 3 = 0.999999999............Infinite 0.9 has now been found! which will
always be < 1
ToPatrick
Quote: "I fail to see how you go from A = 1/3 * 3 to A = 1/3..."
A.R.B
A = (1/3 x 3) = 1 So A now equals 1 again! A = (1/3 x 3) = 1 etc..........
So there we have it!
When someone says Infinite 0.9 is <> 1 they are correct!
Because Infinite 0.9 is a Value that is not related to 1/3 by the very fact,that 1/3 is not a precise Value,it is only a precise Value when used in the Calculation (1/3 x 3) = 1
the values within the Brackects () cannot be seen or known or wrote down!
But 1/3 = 0.333... we can see outside the Brackets as a true Value! which leads us to....
Infinite 0.9 = 3 x 0.333...... which as we know = 0.999999999...........
I rest my case!!!
Another important point is!
Is it possible to fill a Glass with water 100% I think not! because water droplets are larger than air pockets,that Glass contains! so the answer must always be Only 99.99999....% possible!
To Dross
Quote:
"... but since A = 1/3 (as you cited earlier in the same post), your logic leads us to the conclusion that:
B = 3 x A = 3 x 1/3 = 1"
A.R.B
Your mistake is in the above! as I said B is now part of a different Calculation! and A has lost its precise Value! the answer is below!
B = 3 x A (which now is 0.999... because A has become 0.333..)<> (1/3) because this = 1
Done it!
1/3 can Equal 1 again! providing it is done as part of the original Calculation! as in below,
A = (1/3 x 3) = 1
But as soon as you make it a separate Calculation! it losses it's precise value! as in below,
A = 1/3 (which now becomes 0.33333.....)
B = 3 x A
So B Now equals 0.99999999.......................
To Patrick
Quote:
"Neither, it has 50% water(with it's impurities) and 50% air(with it's impurities).. No need to be negative or positive about what a glass contains, it just does "
A.R.B
But I'm sure you are missing the % that is taken up by the internal lining of the Glass!
To George,Y
Quote: X'(y-Xβ)=0
can you explain this more! are you saying an Infinite Number is! or becomes Zero!?
All sounds like fun!!
But who makes the rules! i.e is a Glass half empty? or half Full?
To Ricky
Quote:"Correct. Now you've also said that Infinite 0.3 = 1/3."
A.R.B I said if possible! Decimal 0.3 is not the same as 1/3
the same as 3 x Infinite decimal 0.3 is not the same as 3 x 1/3