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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Being nervous, I guarantee it.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

She will be nervous?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Because not all the pressure is on me to think of something to say

The pressure you speak of is not lasting. There are differing opinions as to why.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

But won't there be a lot of pressure in the first few times we talk?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, but only because you are unsure of yourself.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I did feel more relaxed with adriana after a while. It will probably be the same with Katrina, too. I do want to meet her -- I feel that it'd be more promising than being with M.

How is your back, by the way?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Horrible, I came hope from shopping lurching like Frankenstein's monster. The parents pull their kids in when they see me coming.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Sorry to hear that. Can you order shopping online?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, I could but it is twice the price. The paper that I can order from only has the name brands and only from the most expensive store in the neighborhood. So, I brace my back up and trudge down the block...

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Is it close by?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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About a 3 city blocks and a half.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Maybe someone can offer to help?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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America is a land of the young. No one helps anyone else. Old people are treated like decayed dog food. Not that I am complaining, I had my time plus a little more.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Plus a little more?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, I was strong well past when others aged.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

How far is three and a half blocks?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Maybe about 1000 - 1100 feet.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Are there any shops that are closer than that?

I have decided not to go to my mentor's (M's) meetings anymore. I do have a legitimate excuse -- I've been trying to enrol for some extra modules, and they clash with the timeslot she's placed. They give us 8 modules for first years, that are compulsory: Analysis 1+2, Algebra 1+2, Methods 1+2, Applied Maths + Newtonian Mechanics. I've chosen a few extra because they sound interesting: Number Theory (2nd year), History of Mathematics (3rd year), General Relativity and Cosmology (4th year), Methods 5 (3rd year). I would do the computational maths module too, but it says you need to know Python and some C++, and I don't know either... so I guess I can't do that.

But of course, it's also kind of a test to see if she'd be willing to change the timeslot, just for me.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That is the closest one. I do enjoy the walk, I get to see many weird people.

There computational maths course is a bit outdated but you could learn python quickly.

She might change it, it his her responsibilty.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

So the walking doesn't cause your back more distress?

You have looked at the course?

She didn't change it -- she just said thanks for letting her know...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I tape it up tight and wear a back supporter. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not.

I believe that any course that any computational - numerical course that does not expose the student to a CAS early is not correct.

It would be like training architects by going out and teaching them how to make bricks from clay.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

You mean like the ones athletes use?

Hmm... they get us to use Mathematica to solve some of the problems they give us. There is a list of courses available at:

w ww . ucl . ac . uk / maths / courses / undergraduates (remove spaces)

The computing ones are all second year and beyond.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Just like the ones weight lifters wear. My mobility is severely limited but I live through it.

They should be exposing bright young people to M as soon as possible.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Do you do any exercises to help with it?

Mathematica seems to be the most popular option at UCL...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Exercises are tricky. I never was very flexible and stretching is out. The walking helps to keep my weight down. I pretty much take a chance with any type of motion triggering a spasm. Those are extremely painful.

Maple is in some ways better but not in others.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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