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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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It is the only way to relax it. I am slightly better today.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

My mother has to do that sometimes but not for as long as you do.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I just lay there for a while then I am usually okay. Sometimes though it may take longer, especially if I spasm.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

A lot of my elderly relatives suffer from that also.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Suffer is a good word. Never ending pain of varying severity,

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

And everyone experiences it at least once.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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It is an easy thing to injure, Easy to put too much pressure on it.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Yes, the lower back especially.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Funny thing is some people told me it happened to them when they sneezed, for me it happened when I picked up a floppy disk!

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

People still use those?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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No longer but it was a long while back. I believe it was circa 1998 - 99.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Seems like such a long time ago now...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Sure does. Sometimes, I can not even remember what I was doing or thinking or feeling back then. It seems like a thousand years ago. But other times, it is a sharp and as vivid as yesterday and it seems that it all happened in the blink of an eye.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

True -- and sometimes we are not even aware how valuable it is, and sometimes it is only appreciated when it has past.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I usually only feel that way about missed opportunities. The ones that got away.

Going to get a little sleep see you later.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Yes, and there are usually a lot of them...

Okay, see you later.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Depends on how wasteful a person is. In my case there was a lot of waste.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

And you regret it?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Of course, they are right when they say the missed chances hurt the most.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I have been thinking about this and I don't think I have any regrets (regarding waste) -- I still think dumping H was a wise decision. Maybe, I am too young to have regrets.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, probably they are all in your future.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Something to look forward to?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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One of the thrills of life, I guess. Some good ones are going to get away for various reasons.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

It is a frustrating game.

I have a closed-form expression for Agnishom's integral without using a CAS but it appears that it is wrong (only accurate to 16 decimal places).

Also, I have been working through other chapters in Spiegel's book -- there is a limit I am stuck on, I cannot seem to get the answer.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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What is your closed form?

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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