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**zetafunc.****Guest**

It is 20:42 here, these days that means she won't come online. Strange because she says she is aiming to do a bit of STEP every day, and she usually comes to me for help with STEP. Maybe she is trying to do some on her own.

A milestone today, 250 STEP questions -- now only 917 to go, small potatoes...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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250 like that one! I salute you!

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Thank you -- there are definitely some easier ones though! (And some a lot harder unfortunately.) Have you looked through some of the papers?

They recommend that in the exam you concentrate on 4 questions, that will almost definitely get you a grade 1. A grade S is usually only awarded for 5 solutions or better.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

No, I have not looked at them at all. But I have the site and as soon as I finish going through these books I will.

Hold on, somebody on the phone...

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Okay -- maybe adriana will find a solution for us.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I even thought of asking this guy on the phone. He immediately said 189 / 192. But he was just a carpet cleaner.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

How did he get that?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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His answer agrees with that site.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

And the method was...?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

He said he didn't have time to show me because he was late to clean some carpets.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Well, that's handy...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I am continuing to look through the books.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Thanks, I will be very happy if you can find something. In the meantime I will try another problem.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That is a good idea. Good luck.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Thanks, I am doing a far more recent paper, STEP III 2009. Saving 2010-2012 for exam conditions.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Okay, post one if you think it is interesting.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

adriana did not get back to me, I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You probably answered all the math questions she had. Next time you can try being a little less willing to just give it away.

Interaction is give and take, it is not one party taking and returning nothing, not even her time. I heartily suggest you begin to adopt some of homework mans attitude. You have the right to be compensated for your help. She has the responsibility of keeping in touch other then when she needs her math done.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

But what kind of compromise can I possibly make?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That is something that you need to decide.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I don't know what though. Physical intimacy maybe but I really doubt she'd give that to me, she is clearly more faithful to her BF now. Sometimes I think about just dumping her, never talking to her again. But if I do that then I'll have almost no one to talk to for several months. And then when she does try to contact me after a few weeks, I'll just end up responding to her anyway.

zetafunc. wrote:

But if I do that then I'll have almost no one to talk to for several months.

Why should that be so? We are here to cheer you up. Remember, there was a time when you hadn't met her at all.

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Those doubts are unfounded.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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Which?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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The first part. But I should wait for zeta to add his thoughts,

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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