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#126 2012-11-23 21:45:11

Calligar
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Re: help me

I don't know Agnishom, it seems to me bob bundy and bobbym are more right about you.  You also seem to only be defending yourself.  Out of curiosity, regardless if you are or aren't, do you want to have aspergers?


Life isn’t a simple Math: there are always other variables.  -[unknown]

But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end.  -Aristotle

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#127 2012-11-23 21:46:58

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I think its the best to be out of the box

When I was 13 years old, I hurted her very much by the way I talked. Now, I realise her importance and I will never be able to forgive myself for those rudenesses. I do not clearly know what I did and how exactly it was but I believe her


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#128 2012-11-23 21:49:19

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Calligar, Yes! I would


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#129 2012-11-23 21:50:06

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Hmm, well I'm not the best with dealing with people, but have you ever tried to explain yourself (not justify)?  I'm just thinking it might help her to understand why you were acting the way you were.

Edit:  Why do you want to have aspergers, to prove you are different?

Last edited by Calligar (2012-11-23 21:51:08)


Life isn’t a simple Math: there are always other variables.  -[unknown]

But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end.  -Aristotle

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#130 2012-11-23 21:51:01

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I do not clearly know what I did and how exactly it was but I believe her.

At 13 you are not really committing any great act of attrition. I would forget about her comments. When someone criticizes you, examine what they say. If they are right, they have given you something, try to fix the problem. Then forget it. If they are wrong just forget it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#131 2012-11-23 21:56:03

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If I am polite now and if I am cool brained now,
Alokananda is the only one whom I would want to thank.

She gave an example of one of my rude activities, last year. Would you like to hear it

Calligar wrote:

Why do you want to have aspergers, to prove you are different?

You can say so


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#132 2012-11-23 21:58:37

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You are different and you do not need Asperger to be different.

Let me hear the example.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#133 2012-11-23 22:00:44

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I wouldn't mind hearing it, I'm just curious (sorry if I'm intruding).

Hmm, I can understand why you'd want to be different, but why not just be yourself?  You are already arguably different.


Life isn’t a simple Math: there are always other variables.  -[unknown]

But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end.  -Aristotle

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#134 2012-11-23 22:05:05

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You are different and you do not need Asperger to be different

LOL

The example is full of emotions which I may not be able to translate correctly: so apologies in anticipation
Last year we had a teacher in school who was a very bad person
He insulted my friends very badly
Therefore, I resolved to take revenge upon her
So at that time, I was full of anger and I wanted to cut MY OWN finger a little for a few drops of blood [please dont ask me to explain me this further]
I was in school at that time and Alokananda Sarkar saw me and objected as she is a human being
I said that I was harming my own self and not anyone else and told her not to interfere.
This was a terribly rude thing I did

I ask her to forgive me


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#135 2012-11-23 22:06:45

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And please dont ask me to explain the incident of this revenge further

nyway, I can understand this upto some extent but I can't interpret other incidents at all


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#136 2012-11-23 22:07:25

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Yes, it was rude. But it is over. If she is a human being then she forgave you. You must forgive you.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#137 2012-11-23 22:09:50

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Hmm..........

She is great
She changed me like no one else


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#138 2012-11-23 22:12:10

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Hmmm. Now how about it? Are you a human being? How about forgiving this Agnishom guy?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#139 2012-11-23 22:15:32

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I see, but I probably agree with bobbym, I don't think she holds it against you.


Life isn’t a simple Math: there are always other variables.  -[unknown]

But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end.  -Aristotle

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#140 2012-11-23 22:18:24

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Forgiving myself??!!

My God

Something was wrong again yesterday, heaven knows what.
She said that she doesn't want or like to talk to me anymore sad
This is why I am thinking something is wrong with me nowadays


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#141 2012-11-23 22:22:28

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Forgiving myself??!!

Yep! You have all the earmarks of a guy that does not like himself very much. Somebody who is second guessing past decisions every day. Someone with a guilty conscience.

I know what you are feeling about her but you should not be so open to every comment someone says to you. They may not mean it. They may be temporarily annoyed at you. You have to be a bit more thick skinned.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#142 2012-11-23 22:24:15

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Well, unless she told you it was something you did, you don't quite know it's because of you.  Something happened or changed, and you don't quite know that that is.  That can't just simply mean go and blame yourself.


Life isn’t a simple Math: there are always other variables.  -[unknown]

But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end.  -Aristotle

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#143 2012-11-23 22:25:35

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Hope it will be all well

You have to be a bit more thick skinned

Sometimes she also says like that

But should I be thick skinned? Should I not make a difference from others? Isn't being thick skinned == being rude?

Last edited by Agnishom (2012-11-23 22:27:04)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#144 2012-11-23 22:30:11

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Isn't being thick skinned == being rude?

No it is not. You have to protect yourself too. In winter you put extra clothes on because of the harsh weather, same thing dealing with people.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#145 2012-11-23 22:33:54

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Maybe you are correct
She is the only one who matters so much to me
I am so depressed now.
As Nky says, I hope it will be all well between us

Bye for now
I have to study as we have our Formative Assesments from this Tuesday

Last edited by Agnishom (2012-11-23 22:34:45)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#146 2012-11-23 22:34:53

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Girls are great but they do not determine your worth. Think about that. Good luck! See you later.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#147 2012-11-23 22:36:25

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Have a great rest of the day!  Hope things work themselves out...


Life isn’t a simple Math: there are always other variables.  -[unknown]

But Nature flies from the infinite, for the infinite is unending or imperfect, and Nature ever seeks an end.  -Aristotle

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#148 2012-11-23 22:36:30

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Its not a question of my worth

She is a great personality


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#149 2012-11-23 22:40:28

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She is but she does not define you. Your sense of self worth should not rise and fall based on what any other person says or feels about you.

You and your actions define you. That and nothing else. You should know this better than me.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#150 2012-11-23 22:49:44

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Re: help me

hi Agnishom,

I go off line for a short while, and when I come back you guys have filled another Gbyte with your discussion.  Eeeekkk! It's hard to keep up.  But I'll try to make a useful comment.  Then I have to go out and see a lady about her Christmas Pantomime  show.

Agnishom wrote:

Something was wrong again yesterday, heaven knows what.
She said that she doesn't want or like to talk to me anymore

This is the same girl you persuaded to join the forum.  She made two posts in response to the mega-welcome she got, and we haven't heard from her since.

I think this girl must like you.  If she really wasn't going to talk to you ever again, why would she waste her time telling you this.  She'd just stop talking and you'd never know why.  So what she really means is "You've upset me, and it's up to you to do something about it"

So speak to her.  Tell her you're sorry, find out what you did and learn from it.  Make sure she is clear that you want to learn and ask her to help you.  In my experience, females like to take on this role of trying to make males behave better, so she should enjoy the job.

btw.  She is a member so she can read this if she wants.  Maybe she is at this very moment  having a good laugh at us all for trying (probably very badly) to understand her.  But at least she will know you want to get it right!

Bob


You cannot teach a man anything;  you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei

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