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**zetafunc.****Guest**

That is okay, it is my bedtime soon anyway.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I did not say that I was sorry to hear about H and maybe she will be okay.

Seems like you are now in contact with a lot of girls by email that is a good start. Soon you will no longer be tongue tied or nervous when you talk to them in person and that is the key. Confidence is one of the major things that attracts them to you.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Hmm, then I suppose in that sense it will be easier to get the shyer girl (in this case Katie) since next to someone like her I look more confident than usual.

One of my friends said that when I explain something, I say it with such confidence and authority that they always believe it. I can use this to my advantage.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Heck yea! Sounds like you might make it to politics!

Convincing people is what the whole game is about. Think of it as selling a product, in this case you are the product!

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Harder to do over e-mail though. Your grammar and vocabulary can convey authority but that's about it... and you are more likely to come across as boastful if text is the only mode of conversation.

Katie is asking what I do in my free time, but I've already told her the few things I do. Not sure if I should lie.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Samuel Butler wrote:

Any fool can tell the truth, but it requires a man of some sense to know how to lie well.

Every man is three men. The man he thinks he is, the man everyone else thinks he is and the man he truly is.

Decision like these come up every day. What is to lie about? tell her what you do and make it sound interesting. Do not downplay it. Downplaying is lying too and lots of people do it because they lack confidence. Convey to her your enthusiasm, it can be done through writing as well as speech. Ever read a good book, that author did it, so can you.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

But I have told her most of what I do -- all I have left are playing with my sister (not really a hobby), and solving maths problems. I suppose I could tell her certain maths problems I found interesting.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, that is a powerful stimulant to girls. They are attracted to strong convictions and desires. Pass on your beliefs and passion for the subject.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I forgot to mention she is a strong maths type too so I can also use that. She is doing a project on Euclid's parallel postulate (geometry is not my favourite field to be honest) but it is nice to talk to someone at length about maths. In my mock Cambridge interview one question I got asked was to find prime factors of 612612503503, and she liked the trick used.

I also text Katie occasionally... but, meeting up will be a problem. She's two hours away on the train.

**zetafunc.****Guest**

And I do hope not all the female maths types I meet are mentally unstable. The previous two were complete headcases. Katie seems fine though.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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A little trick. One of the greatest minds of the twentieth century once said, "Anyone having a relationship should also have a live in psychiatrist present, to deal with her mood swings!"

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Yes, but the previous two WERE headcases, or at least one was (mental hospital). Mood swings are surely not as bad, though I don't know much about dealing with those from a woman.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Listen, they are strange beyond belief. You will never understand them nor they you! But as my signature says you do not need to understand to be successful with them. All of mine were headcases as you call them. It does not matter, we are all strange.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Well, part of me is considering a case like F, for example; I could not understand her actions most of the time, but I would like to say I've learned from this experience, so the next time I find someone similar, with F's behavioral traits, I can skip a few steps and have much less hassle in the long-run. But, like a mathematical problem, I feel a bit unsatisfied having not understood anything.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Forget math! It is a human invention at best. We are talking about emotions. I had lots of girls act like F and C. That is the norm. Here is a truism very popular in Vegas.

There are three kinds of people, those who want things to happen, those who make things happen and those who wonder what happened.

Where do you fit?

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Like F? What did you do about them?

Hmm, I fit into the first and third categories.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hmmmm. Those two categories are not the right one. Get into the middle one!

What did I do? I acted like a jerk and suffered for years like a boob.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I can't always make things happen the way I want them to...

Hmm, so the best way to deal with an F is not to deal with them at all.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I was not detached. I was emotional about the result. Each negative answer was a blow to my ego. When you are concerned with results you are like on a rollercoaster.

Detachment, in the eastern sense is the key. When I incorporated some of that into my thinking I suffered less.

Kipling wrote:

If you can keep your head when all about you

Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;

If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,

But make allowance for their doubting too;

If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,

Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,

Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,

And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;

If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;

If you can meet with triumph and disaster

And treat those two imposters just the same;

If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken

Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,

And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;If you can make one heap of all your winnings

And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,

And lose, and start again at your beginnings

And never breath a word about your loss;

If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew

To serve your turn long after they are gone,

And so hold on when there is nothing in you

Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,

Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;

If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;

If all men count with you, but none too much;

If you can fill the unforgiving minute

With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -

Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,

And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!

Detachment, explained beautifully.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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I had to recall that poem in grade 4.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I think it is much easier to be less emotional about the result if you have a wide range of possibilities to choose from. When I asked F and C out, they were each my only option. Now, I have Katie, R, and two other girls. Less blows to my ego.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Depends on how you handle that. Sometimes more is not better. The whole process is big mess.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Well, as long as I have a sufficiently large 'pool', but the women are chosen such that they tend to be independent of each other (so nothing backfires on me). That almost turns it into a numbers game.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You have heard of Murphy's law? When they are concerned everything will go wrong. You will have to deal with it.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

But some things will go right too...