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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Well, it would be easy if the girls I talked to liked maths, but obviously they don't. So I have to talk about their career ambitions, what A-levels they're studying, what school they went to, things like that. And they ask me the same. Eventually I just run out of things to say, because I do not watch movies, TV, or listen to much music. I watch a lot of tennis but nobody seems to like it. So sometimes I make up stories. But this gets old fast. I know they lose interest when they move to talk to someone else, start playing on their phone, etc... general signs they couldn't give a darn what I'm about to say next.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Maybe you are picking the wrong girls to talk to.

You can talk about yourself or you can talk about them.

That may not be a sign of disinterest, it may be a sign of frustration.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I am doing what I can with the girls I have to work with. It is difficult to talk about myself, because for the most part my life is pretty academic and hardly social. I understand that I may be confusing disinterest with frustration (H was frustrated with me about my conversational skills at one point), but I think the signs I mentioned (playing with phone instead) are most likely signs of disinterest.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Let me ask a question. Why are you talking to any girl?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

What do you mean?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I mean the real reason you are talking to them at all. Guys have other guys for friends. Why do you talk to them? If you figure that out then you have the answer.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I thought the way to get dates with girls was to talk to them, to increase the likelihood of a yes in future.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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So you are talking to them for dates? That is true but you can define it a little bit better. Why do you want to date them? To play tennis? To talk about Fourier transforms?

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

For experience. It is the only way to learn.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes experience but what is the goal? What happens when you get the date? What happens if you get 10 dates? What is the real motivation behind dating?

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

To learn, to put all the signs I memorised into practice, which will help later on in life. If I get 10 dates then maybe I can go further with one of them.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Further? What does that mean?

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

A possible relationship. But as I said it may take several years before I am ready, so maybe dating can help me assess where I am at.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Still we are not getting to the core of the matter. You want a relationship, aren't your guy friends better able to relate to you? They play better tennis, are better at math...

So this dating girls thing must have one element in it that you can not get elsewhere. What is that called?

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Well, a deeper relationship I guess.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Deeper? More talking? More emails? Deeper at what? Why did you want to date C? Or F? You can talk to me or anyone else on this forum and get all the math you can stand.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

No, I meant physical intimacy.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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There you go! Correct a mundo! Now you are talking to them to date them so you can get intimate with them.

Why on earth do you think they are not talking to you for the same reason? Girls ignore completely guys they are not considering for intimacy or even more. They do not talk to them. Girls are very similar to guys in this respect, although they are less honest about it. Here we have an advantage. Men know what they want, women rarely are so sure.

See you later.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

So, Anna, F and C did not consider me for intimacy (and probably not IY either)... it would help if I knew the reason.

So, it is correct to say that PJ is not considering me for intimacy?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I do not agree. It is possible they all considered you, else they would not talk to you.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Well, considered, then quickly rejected.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, but not quickly. They wanted something from you.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Attention?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Maybe, it is difficult to say what F and C wanted. But in the future it is important to know that when someone is interested in you they do not want to wait. If you do not ask her out soon, they can become frustrated and even hostile. Certainly, they will move on to someone else.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I assume you are talking about PJ here?