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**zetafunc.****Guest**

It is tough to tell with her. I don't think she is that shy.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Sorry for the delays. My phone is very busy today. If she is not shy then you have a good chance with her.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

You have the opposite problem to me. My phone is rarely ever called or texted, so whenever I get an important call/text I tend to miss it.

She hangs around with girls, but not a lot of boys. But on the other hand, I hang around with boys, but not a lot of girls.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That does not mean much. People tend to hang with their friends which despite what hollywood says are usually the same gender.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

So it is not a great indicator of whether or not someone is shy?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You have spoken to her in person. Was she shy? That is the best indicator.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

She didn't appear to be.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Now if you could only get her to know that mathematicians are superior to zoologists then you are in heaven.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Why would I be in heaven?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Just a joke. Everytime I have met up with one of those bio people they always hated mathematicians.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I don't understand why they hate us. We don't hate them, do we?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I do not like them very much. Hate is too draining.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I wonder if I can find a way to make her like maths in any way.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That may be difficult. Perhaps you can tell her about the history of math.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I'd have to do some research for myself on that. I am not able to give the complete history. I think telling her the history of maths would bore her.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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How about a 150 page dissertation on the accumulation of errors in floating point computations? That will thrill her silly.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I think if I sent her that she would want me to read a 150-page zoology paper. Torture for the both of us...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You could counter with Andy's original 200 page proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Andy as in Andrew Wiles? She may not be interested in FLT. I would have to think about what would appeal to her. Typically I have found that the three things my friends are impressed by are calculus 'tricks' (like fractional calculus), complex numbers, and modular arithmetic.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I was joking about Andy's proof. It even put him to sleep while reading it.

Much better is number theory. Or why computers can not really do arithmetic.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Number theory is great. Maybe an appropriate choice for PJ, although being a biologist she may dislike it if she cannot see an immediate application.

**zetafunc.****Guest**

Wait, what do you mean by computers can't do arithmetic?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You can always explain how the factoring of numbers relates to cryptography.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I don't know. I get the feeling maths is vomitworthy to her. Maybe she will like the statistics (the most relevant field to biologists I guess).

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, they like statistics as long as it agrees with their pet theories.

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