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#1 2007-01-16 05:44:50

John E. Franklin
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I wrote this song this morning.

(See Jane's audio version way down below!!)

I wrote this song this morning with a composing program I wrote with Euphoria last year.
Here is the data for the song:

Bb Clarinet Melody
Melody Count 90

note duration
11 8
14 8
19 8
43 8
19 8
17 8
19 8
22 8
21 8
19 8
18 8
43 8
23 8
21 8
24 8
43 8
21 8
18 8
19 8
43 8
28 8
27 8
28 8
43 8
26 8
24 8
26 8
43 8
21 8
21 8
22 8
43 8
26 8
21 8
22 8
23 8
24 8
27 8
26 8
23 8
22 8
20 8
19 8
43 8
14 8
15 8
19 8
43 8
19 8
19 8
18 8
14 8
14 8
21 8
21 8
19 8
14 8
14 8
22 8
22 8
19 8
19 8
14 8
14 8
22 8
22 8
26 8
26 8
31 8
31 8
30 8
30 8
33 8
33 8
31 8
27 8
24 8
24 8
22 8
19 8
22 8
22 8
22 8
22 8
22 8
21 8
19 8
18 8
21 8
19 24
For duration, 24 is a quarter note.
8 is one-third of a quarter note, so 3 times faster.
43 means a rest note or a period of silence.
The numbers in the left column go up the chromatic scale, so you
can start with the number one anywhere on the
piano and number to the right counting every key, white and black.
Hope you like it!!! From, John

Last edited by John E. Franklin (2007-10-27 03:54:26)


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#2 2007-01-16 06:29:03

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

I still don't know how to interpret it hmm

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#3 2007-01-16 14:42:16

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

Would you like me to convert it to a bitmap of written music on a treble clef??
Or would you like frequencies in cycles per second??
I could do this if you want.
Also, here is how it goes:
E below low C on clarinet is the number one.
F just a semitone above that is the number two.
F# a half step (which is a semitone) higher is #3.
G is 4.
G# = 5
A = 6
Bb (B flat) = 7
B = 8
C = 9
C# (C sharp) = 10
D = 11
Eb = 12
E between low C and middle C is #13
F = 14
F Sharp = 15
G = 16
G# (which is also called A flat) = 17 (my favorite note on the Bb clarinet!!!
A = 18
Bb = 19
B = 20
middle C = 21
C# just above middle C = 22
D = 23
Eb (E flat) = 24
E = 25 (Notice that all the E's so far vary by the number 12:  1, 13, 25
F = 26
F# = 27
G = 28
G# = 29
A = 30
Bb  that is a whole tone below high C = 31
B that is a half step below high C = 32
High C = 33
C# = 34
D = 35
Eb = 36
E = 37  (again 12 notes away from 25 an octave below, oct means 8, but that is 7 notes plus 1 more.
           (oct = 8, is analagous to "huitieme" in French, meaning une semaine ahead, or one week 7, but count today, so 8.)
But the 12 comes from 7 + 5 sharps and flats.
The 5 sharps and flats are the 3 black keys on the piano near each other plus the 2 black keys on the piano near each other.

F = 38
F# = 39
G above high C = 40
G# = 41
A = 42
And I have 43 reserved to mean "a rest" in music, or a duration of silence between phrases of music.

A duration of 24 means the speed of a tapping foot to average speed music.
A duration of 12 would be called an eighth note, which beats when foot is down and up.
A duration of 6 would be called a sixteenth note, which beats twice for each motion of the foot going down or up, making 4 beats in each tapping of the foot.
Sixteenth notes are fast.
I used duration of 8 for most the song, just 'cause I liked the speed of it.


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#4 2007-01-16 17:05:05

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

Thanks, but yeah, I'm not really familiar with reading music like that, so a bitmap would be great.

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#5 2007-01-17 19:52:14

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

Here it is, a song named after Ganesh and his Power Number, by me.
I made the bitmap with Sibelius Demo software and a screen grabber.
I wrote it in C Piano or Flute key because it is more popular than B Flat Clarinet.
Enjoy.  Play it fast.

View Image: SongForGanesh.JPG

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#6 2007-01-17 20:03:05

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I just noticed the highest note in the song is flatted, you see the flat sign: b     (Bee flat in this case)
Well, a few notes later, the middle line of staff is B natural, hopefully one
doesn't take a flat sign and reuse it later in the measure down an octave to a note
with the same name, but down an octave.
I don't do that.


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#7 2007-01-18 02:09:04

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Hmm, I haven't heard much like this before. I'm still trying to play it fast but it's kinda confusing tongue. I guess it would sound good played fast. How is it based on Ganesh's number?

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#8 2007-01-18 06:59:33

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

Sorry it's confusing.  If you get a computer to play it, it's easier, then you don't have to stumble over the sharps and flats going fast.
Actually, it is just named after Ganeshs 2^60 number that I spent hours programming the night before, so then I thought up this song the next morning and gave it the GaneshPowerNumber name simply because that is the era in which the song was born.
There is no numerical connection between the song and the number, however.
Sorry for any confusion.  It is simply like a dedication.


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#9 2007-01-18 07:05:42

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Very nice. smile

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#10 2007-01-22 13:50:01

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

Thanks!


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#11 2007-01-23 04:20:46

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

um i play the clarinet and i dont understand it :S but probably because i have only been playing for a term and a bit smile


Presenting the Prinny dance.
Take this dood! Huh doood!!! HUH DOOOOD!?!? DOOD HUH!!!!!! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#12 2007-01-23 13:01:46

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

Oh, espeon, keep playing the clarinet, and try out the "Vandoren Selects" reeds, which can be found on the internet, but not in the music stores in New England (NorthEast US).
They sell Vandoren, but not the "Vandoren Selects", which are way better.
In a box of ten reeds, instead of only two good ones, you get nine goods one!!
If you are getting 2 1/2, then try 2's for the selects.
If you are getting 3's, then try 2 1/2's or 3's for selects.
That's what I found works for me, the 2 1/2's and 3's.  3's for high notes, but 2 1/2's are
very good for most any note except the extreme high ones.  It all depends on the gap your mouthpiece has.  I like my A2 Vandoren crystal mouthpiece; it's made of glass, lasts forever, if you don't drop it.


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#13 2007-01-25 07:47:26

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

yh my music teacher said mine werent useable and crushed all but 1 of them


Presenting the Prinny dance.
Take this dood! Huh doood!!! HUH DOOOOD!?!? DOOD HUH!!!!!! DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#14 2007-01-25 08:23:45

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

why all the flat notes lol?


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#15 2007-01-25 19:40:15

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

^ I was just about to say that... tongue

I haven't gotten around to playing it yet, but I had a go, reading and playing, but the flats looked blurry on my screen, oddly enough...

So many flats. big_smile

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#16 2007-01-25 20:40:58

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You don't have to write flats for each of the same note in one bar. Say if you wanted 8 e flats in one bar, just apply the flat to the first e. You have to apply new flats if the note is moved up or down any number of octaves, and at the start of each new bar.

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#17 2007-01-26 17:47:03

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

Brilliant!
Sorry I forgot how to sing them- I used to study this on my second year in college.


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#18 2007-01-30 13:12:18

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

Yeah, sorry I wrote so many flat notes.  I just wanted to make sure no one played it natural by mistake, if they didn't know better.  Off the subject, it is almost a new month, and research.ibm.com will have a new "ponder this" question.  They are always too hard for me, but I'll try again...


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#19 2007-03-08 09:32:20

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

Yeah I agree with toast I have no idea what that means


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#20 2007-03-08 10:05:40

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

So, is this how it’s supposed to sound (at crotchet=120)?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/george.law7/GPN.mid

I made the MIDI file using NoteWorthy Composer, by the way.

Last edited by JaneFairfax (2007-08-10 20:11:17)


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#21 2007-10-27 03:43:30

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

Holy Toledo!! Sorry I didn't see this back in March!!  Nicely done; it's perfect!!
Thanks for providing this audio rendition of my little piece!!! smile)


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#22 2007-10-27 04:11:24

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

It’s a nice jazzy little piece. smile


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#23 2007-10-27 06:57:13

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

might I reccomened NoteWorthy Composer, John? You do know about midi composing programs right? Noteworthy is free except the unpaid subscription only allows ten saves per song, (to encourage you to get the full subscription)

However, you can just start a new song and paste in the notes when your save file runs out, or just buy the subscription.


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#24 2007-10-27 10:19:07

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

Thanks for the idea, both of you!!
Midi looks nice for 12 note scale (chromatic),
but I also have interest in the future for 48 note scales in the octave.
My Euphoria program builds WAV files out of clarinet notes I recorded,
so I like it, but the MIDI file is so small and compact and wonderful too...


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#25 2007-10-31 00:12:11

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Re: I wrote this song this morning.

Or, you could get Melody Assistant or Harmony Assistant (http://www.myriad-online.com/en/index.htm). These are somewhat free; they'll run forever without payment, but you can't export more than a few seconds to audio (I think you can export as much as you want to midi), both can read midi files, but you can't print anything with the free version, also, you can't put more than a certain number of symbols on a single score. If you buy it, they give you a CD with a better sound base (more instruments, etc.).

However, I would strongly suggest to anyone that they should look at all the options before throwing money away.


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