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**Devantè****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-07-14
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The repetitiveness of this is making me drowsy.

Anthony.R.Brown, what luca-deltodesco posted is true. You keep saying different things all the time, saying one thing is something and that it isn't the next. Choose one or the other.

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**Ricky****Moderator**- Registered: 2005-12-04
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Yes, the axiom of infinity tells us that there exists an infinitely large collection of numbers - but please clarify for me what exactly tells us that we are dealing with such a collection in this particular case.

Obviously, we are not dealing with such a collection when we consider the set {1, 2, 3}. What I'm sort of saying is that I know we can go on forever (if the right conditions are met), but do we go on forever, with this particular situation?

I'm confused what you mean by "in this particular case". Do you mean in decimal representation of rational numbers?

I'm well aware that axioms are assumptions - I'm not asking for how you get to the assumptions, I'm simply trying to reject thm on the grounds of absurdity - I'm saying it's simply not true! Some people (most people) would reject the axiom that I am the only thing which exists in the universe on the grounds of absurdity, for example.

I disagree. As long as it doesn't result in contradiction, to me it exists in the math world. But this is philosophy.

I'll join you on the hat thing. I reckon it won't be so bad with the right accompaniments - is it red or white wine with clothing?

Red or white wine? I eat mine with A1.

"In the real world, this would be a problem. But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist. So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

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**Anthony.R.Brown****Banned**- Registered: 2006-11-16
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To luca-deltodesco

Quote:

"you say that 1/3 × 3 = 1, you state that at [1]"

A.R.B

"No" I say A = (1/3 x 3) = 1 "this is quite different! and important!!"

Quote:

"you then say that 1/3 = 0.333...., you state that at [2], so you are saying that 1/3 and 0.333.... are exactly the same, they are equal"

A.R.B

"No I say! A = (1/3) is completely different from B = 1/3 "this is quite different! and important!!"

A.R.B

"The rest that you are saying! that I have said, is answered by the above (2) false Quotes: by you!

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**luca-deltodesco****Member**- Registered: 2006-05-05
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the only difference between 1/3 × 3 and (1/3 × 3) is that one is in brackets, the value of said expressions ARE EXACTLY THE SAME if you somehow think theres a difference, you need to go back to primary/elementary school and starting learning about maths from the very start.

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**Anthony.R.Brown****Banned**- Registered: 2006-11-16
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To luca-deltodesco ?

B = 1/3 "Which = 0.333333333333333333333...........

Can you tell me the Value of A ?

A = 1/3

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**Anthony.R.Brown****Banned**- Registered: 2006-11-16
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AGAIN!

To luca-deltodesco ?

B = 1/3 "Which = 0.333333333333333333333...........

Can you tell me the Value of A ?

A = (1/3)

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**luca-deltodesco****Member**- Registered: 2006-05-05
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what has that got to do with what i just told you?

you are saying that putting brackets around it, suddenly changes its value? so is (10) different from 10?

*Last edited by luca-deltodesco (2007-01-12 02:09:19)*

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**Anthony.R.Brown****Banned**- Registered: 2006-11-16
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To luca-deltodesco ?

Just answer the Question! you know so much!

B = 1/3 "Which = 0.333333333333333333333...........

Can you tell me the Value of A ?

A = (1/3)

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**Anthony.R.Brown****Banned**- Registered: 2006-11-16
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To luca-deltodesco ?

Or if you prefer!

A = (1/3 x 3) =

B = 1/3 x 3 =

Give both Values for A & B

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**luca-deltodesco****Member**- Registered: 2006-05-05
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and ARE THE SAME NUMBER, THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME

putting 1/3 in brackets, DOES (alternate word for having sexual intercourse) ALL!!!!

---- removed swearing, on an alternate topic, why is s.e.x changed?

*Last edited by luca-deltodesco (2007-01-12 02:21:14)*

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**Anthony.R.Brown****Banned**- Registered: 2006-11-16
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To luca-deltodesco

Quote: " 1/3 is the same as 0.3"

Now you prove the fool you are!!!.......................................................................................

A.R.B

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**luca-deltodesco****Member**- Registered: 2006-05-05
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i never said 1/3 is equal to 0.3 you retarded piece of (alternate word for dung)

is mathematical notation for a recurring decimal, or to put it in your retarded words, 'duuuh it means infinite 3'---removed swearing

*Last edited by luca-deltodesco (2007-01-12 02:20:27)*

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**Toast****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-10-08
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lol

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**luca-deltodesco****Member**- Registered: 2006-05-05
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Toast wrote:

lol

ive never had something stir me up like this in a while, does you good everynow and again, except usually the idiot realises they are wrong, doesn't appear to be the case this time

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**Anthony.R.Brown****Banned**- Registered: 2006-11-16
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To luca-deltodesco

"When a CHILD! cant get their own way they normally SWEAR!!

give me your address and I will meet you!

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**luca-deltodesco****Member**- Registered: 2006-05-05
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lol what? anthony, you are alone here, no-one is agreeing with you, and everyone has been trying to show you how you are wrong, but you seem to simply refuse to listen, determined that you are right, and everyone else is wrong, even though your reasoning defies the basic laws of maths

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**Anthony.R.Brown****Banned**- Registered: 2006-11-16
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To luca-deltodesco ? " and the fools that follow him? it ?

A = (1/3 x 3) =

B = 1/3 x 3 =

Give both Values for A & B

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**luca-deltodesco****Member**- Registered: 2006-05-05
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my god. 1 and 1, both expressions result in 1, they are not even different expressions, the expressions themselves have no differences between them

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**Anthony.R.Brown****Banned**- Registered: 2006-11-16
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To luca-deltodesco

WRONG!!

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**luca-deltodesco****Member**- Registered: 2006-05-05
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... you are honestly saying that (1/3 × 3) and 1/3 × 3 are not the same? You are honestly, saying this?

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**luca-deltodesco****Member**- Registered: 2006-05-05
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i guess this might persuade you:

or or whichever you prefer, all are satisfactory notations for a single recurring decimal. this number may be written as the sum of an infinite geometric series with first term 0.3, and ratio 0.1it is well known that for a geometric series with first term a and common ration r, the sum to infinity is

which in this case isyet another proof that 0.333... = 1/3, and therefore consequently, 0.999... = 1

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**Anthony.R.Brown****Banned**- Registered: 2006-11-16
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Any more challenges on this! the "MAIN FOOL!" got it completely "WRONG!"

A = (1/3 x 3) =

B = 1/3 x 3 =

Give both Values for A & B

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**Anthony.R.Brown****Banned**- Registered: 2006-11-16
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Back another Day!

to see if this can Trap! anymore "FOOLS"

A.R.B

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**Toast****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-10-08
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Anthony, I think you've run out of cards to play. Now you aren't even giving reasons as to why he's wrong. GG.

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**luca-deltodesco****Member**- Registered: 2006-05-05
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tell me, what does it mean if you encapsulate an expression in brackets. as an example:

what is the difference between 2×3+4 and 2×(3+4)

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