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#1 2015-05-07 17:57:10

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get strong points

How can we define get strong points in 3x3 window?

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#2 2015-05-07 23:22:24

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Re: get strong points

Hi pari_alf;

What are strong points?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#3 2015-05-08 04:53:56

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Re: get strong points

They are things you cannot argue against


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#4 2015-05-08 04:55:52

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Re: get strong points

And 3 x 3 window?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#5 2015-05-08 04:58:48

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Re: get strong points

3 by 3 window is a discrete two dimensional space, of course.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#6 2015-05-08 05:00:22

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Re: get strong points

How do you get those strong points in there?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#7 2015-05-08 05:01:24

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Re: get strong points

Can you argue against the point (0,0)?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#8 2015-05-08 05:03:56

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Re: get strong points

Nope, it is very original. What does that have to do with the questions.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#9 2015-05-08 05:06:58

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Re: get strong points

What is your question?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#10 2015-05-08 05:09:30

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Re: get strong points

Can you argue against the point (0,0)?

What is that?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#11 2015-05-08 05:15:53

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Re: get strong points

a three by three window consists of nine points.

(0,0), (0,1), (0,2),
(1,0), (1,1), (1,2),
(2,0), (2,1), (2,2)

(0,0) is such a point

Last edited by Agnishom (2015-05-08 05:16:23)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#12 2015-05-08 05:17:21

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Re: get strong points

So what comes next?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#13 2015-05-08 05:18:25

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Re: get strong points

(0,0) is a strong point


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#14 2015-05-08 05:19:43

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Re: get strong points

Why is it a strong point?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#15 2015-05-08 05:21:12

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Re: get strong points

Can you argue against (0,0)?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#16 2015-05-08 05:22:13

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Re: get strong points

Nope, it is my favorite? I can not argue with any point. Does that mean they are all strong?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#17 2015-05-08 05:24:50

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Re: get strong points

Probably, let us work on redifining a strong point?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#18 2015-05-08 05:30:18

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Re: get strong points

You seem to understand this question...


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#19 2015-05-08 05:33:31

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Re: get strong points

Let us try defining a strong point as a point that cannot be broken in polynomial time.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#20 2015-05-08 05:34:33

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Re: get strong points

Broken in polynomial time? What does broken mean here?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#21 2015-05-08 05:36:49

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Re: get strong points

To understand this we will redefine the 3x3 window


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#22 2015-05-08 05:38:48

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Re: get strong points

Is it true that you understand this question?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#23 2015-05-08 05:42:47

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Re: get strong points

What do you think?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#24 2015-05-08 05:45:06

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Re: get strong points

I think you do, so why not answer the OP's question yourself?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#25 2015-05-08 05:49:56

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Re: get strong points

I think I don't.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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