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Who are the mathematicians?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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They are guys who do math professionally.

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You have shown that there exists at least one solution for which a+b=88. This does not however prove that there are no solutions which have a+b != 88

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**bob bundy****Moderator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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To extract a contradiction argument you would have to assume that x + y ≠ 88 and show this leads to a contradiction. Since many other values (other than 88) are possible, I think you'd have a tough time with this.

Bob

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I do not need a 'by contradiction' proof. Yours is pretty elegant

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

This is the first reply:

Excellent work. Indeed, for positive integers , you've nailed it.

Now I am getting some negatives!

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Where is the reply?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

You and Bob are correct.

First off, I did not see the word prove when I did that or forgot about it.

They said I needed to prove some property of integers that I did not do. They gave the same proof that zetafunc did.

Sorry, for the confusion.

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yay!

That link says you're 93

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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yay!

I really can not get as worked up about it as you can.

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Worked up about it? What does that expression mean?

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bobbym wrote:

They are guys who do math professionally.

Who pays them?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I think about 80% are working in some capacity or other for the MIC.

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An electronics company?

A better question is why mathematicians are paid?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That is an assuring article but does not mention MIC anywhere

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hmmm, the point is they are paid.

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stefy wrote:

I've heard that too much money can make you different.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I agree, the changes are subtle at first.

I know what noemi would say.

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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Agnishom wrote:

A better question is why mathematicians are paid?

Because what mathematicians do is important.

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What would noemi say?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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There is a specific quote but I am not her.

Shivam is right.

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Topologists too?

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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Of course. Topology is an important branch of mathematics which influences many other areas. There are new areas popping up, like topology being used to sensor networks and robotics, topological insulators, a structure with some notion of continuity etc.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Topologists too?

Mostly the people that are employed here in these installations that I saw were applied not pure.

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