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#26 2014-05-10 05:30:22

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Re: Number Theory

Who are the mathematicians?


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#27 2014-05-10 05:31:19

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Re: Number Theory

They are guys who do math professionally.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#28 2014-05-10 05:41:27

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Re: Number Theory

You have shown that there exists at least one solution for which a+b=88. This does not however prove that there are no solutions which have a+b != 88


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#29 2014-05-10 05:42:41

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Re: Number Theory

To extract a contradiction argument you would have to assume that x + y ≠  88 and show this leads to a contradiction.  Since many other values (other than 88) are possible, I think you'd have a tough time with this.

Bob


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#30 2014-05-10 05:49:09

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Re: Number Theory

I do not need a 'by contradiction' proof. Yours is pretty elegant


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#31 2014-05-10 05:54:08

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Re: Number Theory

Hi;

This is the first reply:

Excellent work. Indeed, for positive integers  , you've nailed it.

Now I am getting some negatives!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#32 2014-05-10 06:02:15

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Re: Number Theory

Where is the reply?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#33 2014-05-10 06:12:10

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Re: Number Theory

Hi;

You and Bob are correct.

First off, I did not see the word prove when I did that or forgot about it.

http://math.kabooblydoo.com

They said I needed to prove some property of integers that I did not do. They gave the same proof that zetafunc did.

Sorry, for the confusion.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#34 2014-05-10 12:01:10

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Re: Number Theory

cool yay!

That link says you're 93


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#35 2014-05-10 12:20:03

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Re: Number Theory

yay!

I really can not get as worked up about it as you can.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#36 2014-05-10 12:26:58

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Re: Number Theory

Worked up about it? What does that expression mean?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#37 2014-05-10 12:30:08

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Re: Number Theory

bobbym wrote:

They are guys who do math professionally.

Who pays them?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#38 2014-05-10 12:35:28

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Re: Number Theory

I think about 80% are working in some capacity or other for the MIC.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#39 2014-05-10 12:43:21

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Re: Number Theory

An electronics company?

A better question is why mathematicians are paid?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#40 2014-05-10 12:48:57

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Re: Number Theory

An electronics company?

Not exactly.

http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic … 52#p110552


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#41 2014-05-10 12:59:29

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Re: Number Theory

That is an assuring article but does not mention MIC anywhere


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#42 2014-05-10 13:10:52

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Re: Number Theory

Hmmm, the point is they are paid.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#43 2014-05-10 13:28:10

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Re: Number Theory

stefy wrote:

I've heard that too much money can make you different.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#44 2014-05-10 13:30:48

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Re: Number Theory

I agree, the changes are subtle at first.

I know what noemi would say.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#45 2014-05-10 13:38:19

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Re: Number Theory

Agnishom wrote:

A better question is why mathematicians are paid?

Because what mathematicians do is important.

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#46 2014-05-10 13:43:04

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Re: Number Theory

What would noemi say?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'You have made another human being happy. There is no greater accomplishment.' -bobbym

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#47 2014-05-10 13:44:19

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Re: Number Theory

There is a specific quote but I am not her.

Shivam is right.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#48 2014-05-10 13:45:35

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Re: Number Theory

Topologists too?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#49 2014-05-10 13:47:57

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Re: Number Theory

Of course. Topology is an important branch of mathematics which influences many other areas. There are new areas popping up, like topology being used to sensor networks and robotics, topological insulators, a structure with some notion of continuity etc.

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#50 2014-05-10 13:50:50

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Re: Number Theory

Topologists too?

Mostly the people that are employed here in these installations that I saw were applied not pure.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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