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#201 2006-01-06 06:25:14

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Re: Cow Bull 1

(according to my calculations)


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#202 2006-01-06 06:39:52

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Re: Cow Bull 1

No, siva.eas's guess doesn't match the result from guess 6.

My calculations show that either ganesh is right, with 1204, or the answer is Guess 9 (because siva actually had guess 8): 1206.


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#203 2006-01-06 07:25:09

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Re: Cow Bull 1

I think her result match, but we'll see soon.


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#204 2006-01-06 07:31:24

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Re: Cow Bull 1

I'm starting writing cowbull program in Mathematica.
I think I'll be ready soon.


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#205 2006-01-06 07:33:53

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Here's some code:

len[n_] := Length[IntegerDigits[n]]
(*This gives the number of digits of n*)

diff[n_] :=
  (
    a := 0;
    Do[
      If[IntegerDigits[n][[i]] == IntegerDigits[n][[j]] && i != j, a = 1]
      , {i, 1, len[n]}, {j, 1, len[n]}];
    a
    )
(*this gives 1 if there is repeating digit*)

cowbull[a_, b_] :=
  (
    c := 0;
    d := 0;
    If[len[a] == len[b] && diff[a] == 0 && diff[b] == 0,
      Do[
        If[
          IntegerDigits[a][[i]] == IntegerDigits[b][[j]],
          If[i != j,
            c += 1,
            d += 1]],
        {i, 1, len[a]},
        {j, 1, len[b]}];
      {c, d},
      Print["Please input correct numbers"]]
    )
(*this is the main function. It 
    gives the number of cows and bulls between 2 numbers a and b*)

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#206 2006-01-06 07:55:15

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Re: Cow Bull 1

If the answer was 4219, then a guess of 1289 would have returned bbc.


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#207 2006-01-06 08:15:09

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Oh yes, you're right


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#208 2006-01-06 10:19:04

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Now I'm ready with my program and I'm checking it...


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#209 2006-01-06 10:21:14

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Yes, Mathsy, you are right.
According to the home-made program the answers are 1204 or 1206.

It works!!!


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#210 2006-01-06 10:32:15

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Here is it:
(you won't understand it easy)

(* Cow Bull *)
(* by krassi_holmz *)
(* January, 2006 *)
(*BEGINING*)
(*--------------------------------------------------------------*)

len[n_]:=Length[IntegerDigits[n]]
(* This gives the number of digits of n *)
(*--------------------------------------------------------------*)

diff[n_]:=
  (
    a:=0;
    Do[
      If[IntegerDigits[n][[i]] == IntegerDigits[n][[j]] && i!=j,a=1]
      ,{i,1,len[n]},{j,1,len[n]}];
    a
    )
(* this gives 1 if there is a repeating digit *)
(*--------------------------------------------------------------*)

cowbull[a_,b_]:=
  (
    c:=0;
    d:=0;
    If[len[a]\[Equal]len[b]&&diff[a]\[Equal]0&&diff[b]\[Equal]0,
      Do[
        If[
          IntegerDigits[a][[i]]\[Equal]IntegerDigits[b][[j]],
          If[i!=j,
            c+=1,
            d+=1]],
        {i,1,len[a]},
        {j,1,len[b]}];
      {c,d},
      "Please insert correct numbers"]
    )
(* this is the main function. It gives the number
     of cows and bulls between 2 numbers a and b *)
(*---------------------------------------------------------------*)

iscb[a_,b_,c_]:=If[Head[cowbull[a,b]]!= String && cowbull[a,b]\[Equal]c,1,0]
(* this gives 1 if the n\
umber of cows and bulls 
    of a and b is from the table c*)
(*---------------------------------------------------------------*)

gen[a_,data_,cb_]:=
  (
    p:=1;
    Do[
      If[
        iscb[a,data[[i]],cb[[i]]]\[Equal]0,
        p=0]
      ,{i,1,Length[data]}];
    p
    )
(* this is generalized iscb function. It gives 1 if all the numbers 
    from data list have cowbull[a,n] equal to cb[n]*)
(*----------------------------------------------------------------*)

ppt[l_]:=
  (
    k:=1;
    Do[If[l[[i]]\[Equal]1,out[k]=i;k=k+1],{i,1,Length[l]}];
    Table[1022+out[j],{j,1,k-1}]
    )
(* this function is used to visualise the results. It transforms 
    a binary solution table to the final solution table *)
(*----------------------------------------------------------------*)

TheSolutions[data_,cb_]:=ppt[Table[gen[i,data,cb],{i,1023,9876}]]
(* this is the final function *)
(*----------------------------------------------------------------*)
(*END*)

Last edited by krassi_holmz (2006-01-06 10:35:13)


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#211 2006-01-06 10:42:39

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Here's the input and calling the function TheSolutions (for the last cowbull):

Last edited by krassi_holmz (2006-01-06 10:44:09)


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#212 2006-01-06 10:46:35

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Re: Cow Bull 1

So Mathsy || Ganesh wins!

Congratulations Mathsy || Ganesh !

(|| means logic OR)


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#213 2006-01-06 12:33:29

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Guess &: 1204          bbb
Guess 9: 4219           bc

Right, didn't see next page.

Guess 8: 1206          bbbb

Mathsy wins. Again. Kudos to you. big_smile

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#214 2006-01-06 16:34:06

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Cow Bull # 12
(1) Who's going to host?
(2) If the members agree, we can upgrade the game to hexadecimal. All conditions remain the same. Four digit numbers, no repititions,  the number shouldn't start with zero. The only difference, we'd have to guess from 15 numbers : 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,A,B,C,D,E. The number of permutations : 30,576!
Advantages :- Games of longer duration, more players get an opportunity to win.
Disadvantage :- If the host makes a mistake, the game would go on meaninglessly until someone (maybe the host) discovers there has been a mistake.

Vote for or against Hexa cool


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#215 2006-01-06 23:28:11

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Re: Cow Bull 1

No, I'll have to rewrite my program!

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#216 2006-01-07 01:59:43

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Yes, because krazzi will have to rewrite his program! tongue

But seriously, I think it will be much more fun this way. Using a computer program could be considered cheating, anyway.

I'll host this game. I've got 2 possible numbers, depending on whether the rule change gets accepted or not.


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#217 2006-01-07 02:53:11

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Re: Cow Bull 1

OK. I agree. I've written my program for demical numbers, but my style is "function programing" so it won't be hard to generalize my program. Actually I have to rewrite only some functions becouse the i can you many of old functions. But I won't cheat. I promise.

I suggest to have two games at once:
hexademic cb1:
guess 1: def3

demical cb12:
guess 1:1234


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#218 2006-01-07 03:04:43

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Re: Cow Bull 1

2 games at once? That will be... interesting. Well, it never hurts to try something once, so let's see how this turns out.

Hex Guess 1: DEF3 (bc)
Dec Guess 1: 1234 (cc)


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#219 2006-01-07 06:10:21

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Hex Guess 2:ABFD
Dec Guess 2:5678


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#220 2006-01-07 10:38:36

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Hex 2: ABFD (bcc)
Dec 2: 5678 (cc)


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#221 2006-01-07 19:05:34

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Thats very interesting! Two games simulataneously, one in Decimal and the other in Hexa!
Guess 3 : Hex : DBFA
Guess 3 : Dec : 3904


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#222 2006-01-07 22:47:11

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Hex 3: DBFA (ccc)
Dec 3: 3904 (-)


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#223 2006-01-07 23:29:51

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Hex 4:a3bf
Dec 4:7812


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#224 2006-01-07 23:53:01

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Hex 4: A3BF (cc)
Dec 4: 7812 (cccc)


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#225 2006-01-08 08:44:18

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Re: Cow Bull 1

Hex 5:badf
Dec 5:8127


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