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#326 2014-01-15 03:28:39

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi;

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#327 2014-01-15 03:43:07

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

#328 2014-01-15 03:48:13

bobbym

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi;

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#329 2014-01-15 04:00:46

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Re: Probability problem.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

#330 2014-01-15 04:05:38

bobbym

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Re: Probability problem.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#331 2014-01-15 04:16:02

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Re: Probability problem.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

#332 2014-01-15 04:18:05

bobbym

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Re: Probability problem.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#333 2014-01-15 04:24:38

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Re: Probability problem.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

#334 2014-01-15 04:29:38

bobbym

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Re: Probability problem.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#335 2014-01-15 04:39:11

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Re: Probability problem.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

#336 2014-01-15 04:41:36

bobbym

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi;

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#337 2014-01-15 04:46:52

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Re: Probability problem.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

#338 2014-01-15 04:50:37

bobbym

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Re: Probability problem.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#339 2014-01-15 04:53:21

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Re: Probability problem.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

#340 2014-01-15 04:57:34

bobbym

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Re: Probability problem.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#341 2014-01-15 05:03:26

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Re: Probability problem.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

#342 2014-01-15 05:10:40

bobbym

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Re: Probability problem.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#343 2014-01-15 05:15:07

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Re: Probability problem.

Last edited by gAr (2014-01-15 05:20:24)

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

#344 2014-01-15 05:21:18

bobbym

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Re: Probability problem.

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#345 2014-01-17 17:07:32

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Re: Probability problem.

New problem:

i. What is the expected value of the variable c in the following snippet of code?

Code:

```c=0
a=0
while (a!=0xffffffff)   # loop until all 32 bits in 'a' are 1
i=random(0,32)      # get a random number between 0 and 31
a=a|(1<<i)          # set the i'th bit from right in a 32 bit integer 'a'
c=c+1               # increment c```

ii. If 'a' is a n bit integer, what is the expected value of c till all n bits are set?

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

#346 2014-01-17 19:57:44

bobbym

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi gAr;

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#347 2014-01-17 20:01:01

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi bobbym,

Okay.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

#348 2014-01-17 20:10:21

bobbym

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi;

In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#349 2014-01-17 20:39:43

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Re: Probability problem.

Hi bobbym,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

#350 2014-01-17 22:30:18

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Re: Probability problem.

A modified version of the previous problem:

iii. What is the expected value of the variable c in the following snippet of code?

Code:

```c=0
a=0
while (a!=0xffffffff)   # loop until all 32 bits in 'a' are 1
i=random(0,32)      # get a random number between 0 and 31
a=a^(1<<i)          # toggle the i'th bit from right in a 32 bit integer 'a'
c=c+1               # increment c```

iv. If 'a' is a n bit integer, what is the expected value of c till all n bits are set?

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."