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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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For some reason it is impossible to place with me here drawings. Automat writes that works anti-spam. I have no possibility to place drawings?

**"The conditions imposed on functions, become a source of difficulties which will manage to be avoided only by means of new researches about the principles of integral calculus"**

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Give me the links or are they on your hard drive?

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bobbym wrote:

Hi;

Give me the links or are they on your hard drive?

h ttp://vladimir938.eto-ya.com/files/2012/11/alg.jpg

h ttp://vladimir938.eto-ya.com/files/2012/11/screenshot-21.11.jpg

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

At the request of 21122012 I will post these links

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Thanks.

I suggest to consider the bottom drawing. This drawing - result of the actual experience on which we will check the validity of theoretical conclusions of CALCULUS. It is communication ALGEBRA and CALCULUS. The day after tomorrow I will lay out errors of CALCULUS in my POST. I want, that 2 days all wishing could analyse drawings to try to find errors of CALCULUS.

(7) - formula of a secant.

on the drawing function schedule

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Hi;

I will look at it in the meantime.

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It is necessary to consider five cases:

1. x-variable,a=const,b=const;

2. x-variable,a-variable,b=const;

3. x-variable,a=const,b - variable;

4. x-variable,a-variable,b-variable;

5. The definite integral,interval (x_1,x_2 ).

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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Hi, bobbym!

insert please these links:

h ttp://vladimir938.eto-ya.com/files/2012/11/1.jpg

h ttp://vladimir938.eto-ya.com/files/2012/11/2.jpg

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

New links to the ones also added previously:

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

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Hi, bobbym!

insert please these links:

h ttp://vladimir938.eto-ya.com/files/2012/11/11.jpg

h ttp://vladimir938.eto-ya.com/files/2012/11/12.jpg

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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Bobbym, invite, please in this subject more influential mathematicians. I will show new which in the future will replace CALCULUS!

I want not to write still any time, that at opponents had questions on links.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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More links put in:

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On the basis of the foregoing I will repeat the main thought of this theme:

- is true. - is error.It is not proved?!

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I developed the mathematical atlas in which communication between an algebraic geometrical analytical and graphic form of record of mathematical objects is shown. That is having taken for consideration any object from these sections it is possible to see its interpretation in other sections.

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If want to understand geometrical sense of a derivative, consider for a start such example:

1. The area of a circle is radius function:

2. The length of a circle is radius function: .

3. These two functions of the same argument are connected with each other in a special way, namely, as a derivative-antiderivative.

4. The radius differential - is distance between the next points, - an elementary piece - the smallest radius what only can be:.

5. Increase of length of a circle on radius differential - is differential of the area of a circle - the smallest increment of the area of a circle which only can be: (elementary ringlet).

6. The area of a circle is the sum of all elementary ringlets, beginning from the center of a circle and to its any value, for example R:

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In calculus geometrical examples is errors, because it not geometrical objects, but it is graphic objects!

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The main mistake of founders of calculus in that that they badly studied: "Descartes's Rules for the Direction of the Mind".

Because when horizontal (OX) and vertical (OY) pieces that are postponed the rectangle turns out

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Look at the bottom drawing of a post #43!

a)

: , may be other function at "x";b)

: ;c)

;d)

;e)

;f)

;g)

;And 2 functions:

h)

;i)

, on function graphics this line will have formula. In other cases I will give a formula of a general view later.*Last edited by 21122012 (2012-11-26 13:08:44)*

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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bobbym, correctly translates my robot translator into English? It not Chinese or Japanese? I for some reason don't see objections. With me all agree also you too?

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In what basic distinction between SA and C? That for C the end result of dependence is important, for example:

and for SA is still important process as a result of which there is this dependence, for example: - square as result of construction of argument in the second degree; - square as special case of a rectangle; - square as sum of two identical rectangular isosceles triangles; - formula by means of which it is possible to write down the Fermat's Last Theorem, which condition settles down on one line: - the same only in the form of separate pieces; -square which area is expressed by length of a piece settling down on the coordinate plane at an angle to an axis of abscissae OU.These formulas are called as "structural formulas of function".

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**21122012****Member**- Registered: 2012-11-16
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Hi, bobbym

I start to feel awkwardly because there are no comments. Let's have a talk though with you. That do I write what your opinion on that and with what you aren't agree?

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Hi

You shouldn't put up your email, for safety reasons.

Now, let me go through thread once more and then we can discuss what you want to discuss.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi 21122012;

I start to feel awkwardly because there are no comments. Let's have a talk though with you. That do I write what your opinion on that and with what you aren't agree?

Do not feel awkward about it.

My opinion has not changed very much. The original statement is a definition.

It still makes perfect sense to me. But I am not really qualified to argue about it.

Of course that result can be rigorously obtained, but who cares?

Combinatorics is Algebra and Algebra is Combinatorics.

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anonimnystefy wrote:

Hi

You shouldn't put up your email, for safety reasons.

Now, let me go through thread once more and then we can discuss what you want to discuss.

I want this. Please.

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**anonimnystefy****Real Member**- From: The Foundation
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Hi

What do the pictures represent? I don't understand what they are saying. What is structural analysis?

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