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What is the other side of being a security expert?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hmmm, whom are they opposed to?

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(unauthorised) hackers?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yeparoo! They are the enemy of hackers.

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Are you a hacker?

'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Good Lord no! I also do not consider myself a mathematician but I sometimes do math...

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What do you generally consider yourself to be? apart from bobbym?

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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First let me say:

bobbym wrote:

Hacking is nothing more than vandalism and although considered the ultimate by those that practice it, it actually takes second place to far more practical and useful skills.

I am just a guy, just like you.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

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Quote: bobbym

"Hacking is nothing more than vandalism and although considered the ultimate by those that practice it, it actually takes second place to far more practical and useful skills."

A.R.B.

Nay. Its an art too.

Quote: bobbym

"I am just a guy, just like you."

A. R. B.

Is that the reason why you do not find the following quote interesting?

Quote: Anonymous

"If a girl is upset, tell her how beautiful she is. If she growls, retreat to a safe distance and throw chocolates at her."

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I found that quote ridiculous. I have had women growl at me and I do not retreat.

Nay. Its an art too.

It is still an invasion of privacy and or vandalism. And it still takes a backseat to far more rewarding ventures.

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Hmm, I do not like dancing neither can I appreciate it. Does it mean that Dance is not an art or does it mean that I'm a bumkin? (No offense intended)

Do you dislike that quote about chocolates because you are a guy just like me?

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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It is an art but so is assassination. Because it is an art does not imply that it is worthwhile to do.

Do you dislike that quote about chocolates because you are a guy just like me?

I do not mean to imply that I am ahead of you now. I am just different. I was very much like you when I was your age.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

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But it is still important. Remember that you need to learn how to use the sword even if you want to defend yourself, or even kill others. You need to know the warfare, the tech; The technology is neutral. You choose what to do with it. Did you note that we have been asked to murder if the needs are so in the Bhagvat Gita? Did you read the last few pages of the first chapter of Disappearing Cryptography?

Is it good that I am like you as you were years back?

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, I am aware of that in the Gita. My brother has told me many times. I am glad that you understand it is a moral decision, I know you will do the right thing. But it is still not the best thing to pursue because it is less valuable.

Is it good that I am like you as you were years back?

Nope it is not. But it appears to be a necessary step.

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step?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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It will take some time for counterexamples to sneak in.

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The next person's brother was also like that years ago

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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No, he never was. In that sense he was way ahead of me.

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How did you know who is ahead?

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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By doing other things besides reasoning.

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Is JimmyR 90 years oung?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I can not say what age jimmyR is.

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Can you say if he is young at heart?

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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He is younger than I am but I am younger at heart.

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Is there a brother younger than him and inductively younger than you?

'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'

I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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