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#151 2013-10-18 21:02:47

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

What is the other side of being a security expert?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#152 2013-10-18 21:03:38

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

Hmmm, whom are they opposed to?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#153 2013-10-18 21:07:38

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

(unauthorised) hackers?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#154 2013-10-18 21:08:44

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

Yeparoo! They are the enemy of hackers.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#155 2013-10-18 22:20:34

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

Are you a hacker?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#156 2013-10-18 22:21:58

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

Good Lord no! I also do not consider myself a mathematician but I sometimes do math...


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#157 2013-10-18 22:26:12

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

What do you generally consider yourself to be? apart from bobbym?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#158 2013-10-18 22:28:05

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

First let me say:

bobbym wrote:

Hacking is nothing more than vandalism and although considered the ultimate by those that practice it, it actually takes second place to far more practical and useful skills.

I am just a guy, just like you.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#159 2013-10-18 23:14:01

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

Quote: bobbym

"Hacking is nothing more than vandalism and although considered the ultimate by those that practice it, it actually takes second place to far more practical and useful skills."

A.R.B.
Nay. Its an art too.

Quote: bobbym

"I am just a guy, just like you."

A. R. B.
Is that the reason why you do not find the following quote interesting?

Quote: Anonymous

"If a girl is upset, tell her how beautiful she is. If she growls, retreat to a safe distance and throw chocolates at her."


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#160 2013-10-18 23:19:47

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

I found that quote ridiculous. I have had women growl at me and I do not retreat.

Nay. Its an art too.

It is still an invasion of privacy and or vandalism. And it still takes a backseat to far more rewarding ventures.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#161 2013-10-18 23:41:34

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

Hmm, I do not like dancing neither can I appreciate it. Does it mean that Dance is not an art or does it mean that I'm a bumkin? (No offense intended)

Do you dislike that quote about chocolates because you are a guy just like me?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#162 2013-10-18 23:44:44

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

It is an art but so is assassination. Because it is an art does not imply that it is worthwhile to do.

Do you dislike that quote about chocolates because you are a guy just like me?

I do not mean to imply that I am ahead of you now. I am just different. I was very much like you when I was your age.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#163 2013-10-18 23:55:38

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

But it is still important. Remember that you need to learn how to use the sword even if you want to defend yourself, or even kill others. You need to know the warfare, the tech; The technology is neutral. You choose what to do with it. Did you note that we have been asked to murder if the needs are so in the Bhagvat Gita? Did you read the last few pages of the first chapter of Disappearing Cryptography?

Is it good that I am like you as you were years back?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#164 2013-10-19 00:01:26

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

Yes, I am aware of that in the Gita. My brother has told me many times. I am glad that you understand it is a moral decision, I know you will do the right thing. But it is still not the best thing to pursue because it is less valuable.

Is it good that I am like you as you were years back?

Nope it is not. But it appears to be a necessary step.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#165 2013-10-19 00:40:39

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

step?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#166 2013-10-19 00:44:59

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

It will take some time for counterexamples to sneak in.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#167 2013-10-19 00:51:47

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

The next person's brother was also like that years ago


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#168 2013-10-19 00:53:54

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

No, he never was. In that sense he was way ahead of me.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#169 2013-10-19 01:00:57

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

How did you know who is ahead?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#170 2013-10-19 01:01:40

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

By doing other things besides reasoning.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#171 2013-10-19 01:09:22

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

Is JimmyR 90 years oung?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#172 2013-10-19 01:15:54

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

I can not say what age jimmyR is.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#173 2013-10-19 01:20:15

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

Can you say if he is young at heart?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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#174 2013-10-19 01:21:35

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

He is younger than I am but I am younger at heart.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#175 2013-10-19 02:31:52

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Re: Can you suggest six names of great mathematicians quickly?

Is there a brother younger than him and inductively younger than you?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
'Humanity is still kept intact. It remains within.' -Alokananda

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