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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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hi bobbym mandy here do you now how to do ratio or not?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi Mandy;

Yes, I do but you already have a person helping you. If I interfere it might just confuse you. You see everybody has different ways of doing things. When you are learning you should not see too many different ways.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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Hi bobbym mandy here thanks for your help it was helpful

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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Hi steveb mandy here.3 to 7 ratio scale it up to 100 tins

New total 100

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Old total. 10. ( come from 3+7 )

So scaling factor = 100/10 = 10

I get this far then I get stuck?

Can you show me how to do the rest please?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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The bit that you have done is correct. I was intending that you would then multiply this scaling factor by the two numbers in the ratio.

So 3 x 10 = 30

and 7 x 10 = 70

So for 100 tins you would have 30 yellow and 70 blue. A quick check would be 30 + 70 = 100 to see that it adds up to 100.

If percentages are needed then they would be 30% yellow and 70% blue.

Can you see what the answer would be for a total of only 50 tins of paint?

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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hi steveb the answer to 50 tins is

new total 50

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old total 10

so scaling factor = 50/10 = 5

so 3 x 5 = 15

and 7 x 5 = 35

so for every 50 tins you would have 15 yellow and 35 blue

am i right?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Yes that is correct. Well done.

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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now what do you want me to do then?

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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hi bob bundy mandy here how do you think i am doing then? send message back please?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Right. With that same ratio of 3:7 what would the answer be for a total of 70 tins ?

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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is it the same as last on or not

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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The ratio is the same, but the total is different.

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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i am stuck on this one HELP ME?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Right. The thing that I am calling an old total is the same (3 + 7 = 10). However I have given you a different number for the

new total. The new total is 70. What is the scaling factor in this case ?

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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new 70

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old 10

so scaling factor = 70/10 = 10

so 3 x 10 = 30

and 7 x 10 = 70

am i right so far ? i am stuck

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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No. You need to look back at the scaling factor bit. The answer to 70/10 is not 10.

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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is it 5 am i right?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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No that is not correct. I think this is a times tables problem. 5 x 10 = 50 and 10 x 10 = 100 somewhere inbetween these two

guesses lies the answer. I don't want to simply tell you the answer because this is good practice for you.

Do you want to try again?

*Last edited by SteveB (2013-03-30 05:08:47)*

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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i will try again and send you my answer at 7.30pm tonight ok see you then buy for now?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Okay see you later.

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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Hi steveb mandy here i have tried to do that sum again but I can not work it out? Can you help me please?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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There are two things here that you need to revise possibly:

(1) Times tables

(2) Division by 10 (and for that matter multiplying by 10)

70 divided by 10 is 7

Each time you have a multiplication in the form: a x b = c

This means that c / a = b

and also c / b = a

(We do need to take care to avoid divisions by zero here, but that is another story)

So here 7 x 10 = 70 70 / 10 = 7 70 / 7 = 10

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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Hi steveb mandy here i am still a bit confused with these need more practices ok? Send me some to try please?

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**SteveB****Member**- Registered: 2013-03-07
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Right let us try to finish off the question about the 70 tins of paint and how many we need of each colour.

So the scaling factor is 7. Can you finish the question off ?

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**mandy jane****Member**- Registered: 2010-09-23
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I am still doing will be back soon with answer

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