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#151 2012-03-08 09:22:48

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym



I managed to type it up on my phone, but I'm afraid that's all I can do for now except explain it a little latex-free.

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The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#152 2012-03-08 09:29:54

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Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#153 2012-03-08 09:38:36

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Derived it myself using the method from the GFology


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#154 2012-03-08 09:40:06

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Hi anonimnystefy;

The book?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#155 2012-03-08 09:43:31

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Yes the book.I only got to the chapter 2.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#156 2012-03-08 09:45:33

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Very good! That is very impressive. Well done.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#157 2012-03-08 09:51:40

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Thanks, but it's not much yet.Could you give me some easier problems I could work on to practise my GF knowledge.A link would be just fine.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#158 2012-03-08 09:55:00

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Hi anonimnystefy;

I wish I could. They are very, very scarce. You learn them by trial and error and slowly.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#159 2012-03-08 09:58:05

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Hi bobbym

Aren't there more problems that are done using GF's?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#160 2012-03-08 10:01:55

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Yes, but GF's are like everything else in mathematics, very iffy. The technique you used will not always work. Sometimes you can not get the recurrence or even a sequence of numbers.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#161 2012-03-08 10:05:24

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Hi bobbym

KI said easier problems.So something I can use the method to get.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#162 2012-03-08 10:09:59

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This thread is for questions of a less demanding nature. I will put something in your Big O thread.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#163 2012-03-08 10:13:57

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Sure can do.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#164 2012-03-08 23:12:43

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Baffler #3

There are ten marbles in an urn. 3 red, 4 black and 3 blue. If the marbles are drawn from the urn and laid on a table in the order they were drawn what is the chance that all 3 types are together. Meaning the 3 reds are together, the 3 blue are together and the 4 blacks are together.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#165 2012-03-09 01:15:19

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Hi bobbym,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
 

#166 2012-03-09 03:40:16

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Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#167 2012-03-09 06:21:51

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Hi bobbym

I got


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#168 2012-03-09 06:25:04

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Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#169 2012-03-09 06:27:17

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That's 2:1000.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#170 2012-03-09 06:31:24

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Hmmmm. Who is counting?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#171 2012-03-09 07:35:31

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hi bobbym

i'm finally on my laptop big_smile

ask me what you want about that GF posted.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#172 2012-03-09 07:41:55

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I think you are in the wrong thread are you not?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#173 2012-03-09 07:44:01

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hi bobbym

i'm not.look at #151.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

#174 2012-03-09 07:46:01

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No questions on that one. The question is in the other thread concerning the supposed Tribonacci numbers.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#175 2012-03-09 08:02:39

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ok,then.

also,i'm now looking at the way of solving the problem you just posted using GF's.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
 

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