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#151 2012-03-07 10:22:48

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym

I managed to type it up on my phone, but I'm afraid that's all I can do for now except explain it a little latex-free.

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#152 2012-03-07 10:29:54

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#153 2012-03-07 10:38:36

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Re: Bafflers?

Derived it myself using the method from the GFology


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#154 2012-03-07 10:40:06

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi anonimnystefy;

The book?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#155 2012-03-07 10:43:31

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Yes the book.I only got to the chapter 2.


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#156 2012-03-07 10:45:33

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Re: Bafflers?

Very good! That is very impressive. Well done.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#157 2012-03-07 10:51:40

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Re: Bafflers?

Thanks, but it's not much yet.Could you give me some easier problems I could work on to practise my GF knowledge.A link would be just fine.


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#158 2012-03-07 10:55:00

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi anonimnystefy;

I wish I could. They are very, very scarce. You learn them by trial and error and slowly.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#159 2012-03-07 10:58:05

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym

Aren't there more problems that are done using GF's?


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#160 2012-03-07 11:01:55

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Yes, but GF's are like everything else in mathematics, very iffy. The technique you used will not always work. Sometimes you can not get the recurrence or even a sequence of numbers.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#161 2012-03-07 11:05:24

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym

KI said easier problems.So something I can use the method to get.


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#162 2012-03-07 11:09:59

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This thread is for questions of a less demanding nature. I will put something in your Big O thread.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#163 2012-03-07 11:13:57

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Sure can do.


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#164 2012-03-08 00:12:43

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Baffler #3

There are ten marbles in an urn. 3 red, 4 black and 3 blue. If the marbles are drawn from the urn and laid on a table in the order they were drawn what is the chance that all 3 types are together. Meaning the 3 reds are together, the 3 blue are together and the 4 blacks are together.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#165 2012-03-08 02:15:19

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

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#166 2012-03-08 04:40:16

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#167 2012-03-08 07:21:51

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi bobbym

I got


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#168 2012-03-08 07:25:04

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Re: Bafflers?

Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#169 2012-03-08 07:27:17

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Re: Bafflers?

That's 2:1000.


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#170 2012-03-08 07:31:24

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Re: Bafflers?

Hmmmm. Who is counting?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#171 2012-03-08 08:35:31

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Re: Bafflers?

hi bobbym

i'm finally on my laptop big_smile

ask me what you want about that GF posted.


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#172 2012-03-08 08:41:55

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Re: Bafflers?

I think you are in the wrong thread are you not?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#173 2012-03-08 08:44:01

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Re: Bafflers?

hi bobbym

i'm not.look at #151.


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#174 2012-03-08 08:46:01

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No questions on that one. The question is in the other thread concerning the supposed Tribonacci numbers.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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#175 2012-03-08 09:02:39

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Re: Bafflers?

ok,then.

also,i'm now looking at the way of solving the problem you just posted using GF's.


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