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#176 2012-03-23 02:55:24

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

In the back of my mind I want some kind of change and little things happen occasionally that make me not want to move on from rejection yet. F has a twin sister (non-identical) who came up to me today and asked me if my name was ____ (it was). She asked me if I knew F - I said that I did, and she said that she was her sister. Then she just walked away, strangely. No clue what that was about, seemed a bit random. She looks nothing like F either.

I also saw F in the shop today with her friend. As I passed her I said 'hey' and smiled, and she smiled back but I don't think she said anything. It was nice to know that I was acknowledged in some way, and not just completely ignored. Then again, she couldn't have ignored me, as I was standing right in front of her...

I see C tomorrow, but part of me still wants F. Hmm.

#177 2012-03-23 02:58:25

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

So F has a sister? That introduction sure was weird. Maybe she wanted to get a look at you, obviously the sister is talking about you to her.

Looks like you will have to let F make the first move now.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#178 2012-03-23 03:03:33

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

But she is so shy, I don't think there will be a first move. Not long to go before she's gone (forever, most likely).

#179 2012-03-23 05:34:55

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

Okay, then ask her again.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#180 2012-03-23 06:12:33

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

Ask her what?

#181 2012-03-23 06:23:18

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If she wants to go out.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#182 2012-03-23 06:32:16

zetafunc.
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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

But I asked her out already and I was rejected (in an implied way)... won't the same thing happen again, just more awkward?

#183 2012-03-23 06:37:47

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Well that is the point. You already got rejected so what can happen now. I think the general rule is 3 times and your out.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#184 2012-03-23 06:49:24

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

I just don't know how to go about doing it this time, last time it was easy, now it is not so easy... here's what happened last time:

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[F's friend is in class today but F is away for the morning. I decide to strike up a conversation with F's friend.]

Me: "Hey, how are you?"
F's Friend: "Good, you?"
Me: "I'm not bad. Hey, do you know if F is in today?"
F's Friend: "She is, why?"
Me: "Oh, I was just going to ask her out, just wanted to know if she was here or not."
F's Friend: "Oh."

The last hour of the school day, F and her friend are both in class. Bell goes:

Me: "F, could I speak to you in private?"
[F's friend knows what is coming so immediately accepts and waits downstairs.]
Me: "Are you busy this holiday?"
F: "I'm going abroad with some family."
Me: "Oh..."
F: "Why, what was it you wanted to ask me?"
Me: "I was just wondering if you'd like to go for a coffee sometime."
[F smiles and then starts walking downstairs. I walk with her. A bit confused about her lack of verbal response, I try to talk to her again but then she says something before I can speak.]
F: "So, wow, you're doing 20 modules in one year... how?"
Me: "Well, I wanted to, I suppose..." (stupid response)
[F doesn't say anything. I want to keep the conversation going so I ask her about the uni she's going to.]
Me: "Oh, I heard about your offer, congratulations! How did you choose which college to go to?"
F: "They sort of pushed me to apply to _____."
Me: "Ah, I see."
[F then walks up to her friend and then starts talking to her. I'm just left walking behind them for the full stretch of the road until I say "see you later!" to which F sort of just quickly glances at me and smiles, then quickly turns back around again.]

Then, stupid me goes home and e-mails her asking her when she's coming back from her holiday. She doesn't respond. Then after the holidays I apologise to her about sending her the e-mail, and she says "it's fine!".
---

So, yeah, I'm really not sure what to do after this... I predict that if I ask her out again she'll just do the same thing and I'll kept trapped in that deadlock of getting a non-response. What should I change here?

#185 2012-03-23 07:00:27

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

Sounds pretty messy. In for a penny sort of thing.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#186 2012-03-23 07:01:49

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

What do you mean?

#187 2012-03-23 07:03:18

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Well, I think she is torturing you but that never stopped me. Persistence pays off sometimes.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#188 2012-03-23 07:06:40

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

So what do you think should be my next move? I have no idea what to do now...

#189 2012-03-23 07:11:22

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I have no idea, I know what I would do, combinatorics!

Combinatorics is way more rewarding than dating.

My second choice would be to ask again.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#190 2012-03-23 07:27:05

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

How do I ask her again, though? Not sure what to do seeing as my first try failed... how should the approach work? Ask to speak in private again?

My statistics course lacks a bit of combinatorics... 75% of it is hypothesis testing.

#191 2012-03-23 07:28:55

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

Try what you did before. As long as you are talking you are doing well. As I said 3 rejections is the usual limit.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#192 2012-03-23 07:39:26

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

Should I ask her for a coffee again? I'd really prefer for her to be alone when I ask her this time because she's always hanging around her friend and I doubt her friend would let me ask F out again. Problem is that she is never alone...

#193 2012-03-23 07:41:01

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

You could try barging right in there between them. Why will the friend interfere with you asking?

I think the coffee idea is fine.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#194 2012-03-23 07:44:10

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

Barging right between them? They almost literally walk shoulder to shoulder... the reason I don't want to speak to F with her friend around is because F sticks to her friend a lot. Too many times has she just decided to give me a quick response and then go back to her friend again. Without the friend, I can speak to her in a conversation that lasts longer than 10 seconds. I would like at least 1 minute with her...

#195 2012-03-23 07:49:24

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

She sounds busy. Usually though the friend will keep his/her mouth shut during  important things like this.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#196 2012-03-23 07:51:21

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

But then F keeps talking to her friend and the friend responds. I have thought about telling F's friend about this if I saw her in private (she's easier to get to on her own, still difficult but happens more often) and maybe asking her if she could let us be alone together a bit more so I could talk to her. But I wonder if she would actually let me do that...

#197 2012-03-23 07:56:09

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Maybe but it is not necessary. Do not complicate this. You have a right to ask.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#198 2012-03-23 07:59:48

zetafunc.
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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

I won't get the chance tomorrow because it's Friday and F isn't in on Friday mornings (usually). I may get the chance to see F's friend on her own though. Do you think me being 17 and her being 18 plays quite a big role? I heard somewhere that psychologically there is a big difference because she's legally an adult and I'm not.

#199 2012-03-23 08:01:59

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

Could be that you are too young for her. But it is only coffee so...


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#200 2012-03-23 08:17:18

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Re: Linear Interpolation FP1 Formula

I could be. I'm taller than her though. Actually, she isn't 18; I remember her birthday being displayed on the board once. It was June or July '94, so she's only older than me by about 7 months or so I think. Still, we are in different years (I'm Year 12, she's Year 13). She's applied to uni and got all her offers, I haven't applied to any unis because I do that next year. When she is in her first year at uni, I'll still be at school in Year 13.

I don't even drink coffee. At the coffee shop I'd order something else. I've never even been inside a coffee shop, but I'm sure I know how it works... I think. If she rejects me do you think I should still ask for her number?

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