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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes and now they hate themselves.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

And so the maths hatred is perpetuated...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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But if they have no special aptitude for math it is easy to see why they can not give it to their students.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Why do you need to have a special aptitude for mathematics to be a good maths teacher?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

I think because to teach mathematics one should be able to do mathematics. This aptitude or competency goes with the making of a good teacher. Over here they sometimes pull teachers from other subjects as math teachers, thinking a good gym teacher should certainly be a good math teacher. Although I have seen people good at math that were horrible teachers I have never seen a poor math student be a good teacher. What have you seen over there?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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Sorry to interject, but when I was in secondary school, we had math and science teachers without A degree. Much less a degree in another related subject. All they did was read directly out of the textbook (which were already pretty bad) and give pointless "book work" to keep us busy. Unbelievably, in 9th standard we were told to sum 1 to 100 to "derive our own formulas" (surprisingly, the teacher didn't know who Gauss was ).

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Sounds similar to my observations. They made poor teachers did they not? It was not their fault either, I mean math is highly specialized subject.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**ShivamS****Member**- Registered: 2011-02-07
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But nonetheless, you would expect a teacher to have a teaching degree?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes but I would also expect him to be good at math and to love math. The three things do not necessarily go together.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I have also never seen a teacher poor at mathematics be a great teacher (I've seen the opposite countless times though). It might also have something to do with the idea that a teacher who is very confident and passionate about mathematics may be enough to hide his weaknesses.

I'm back living in halls now, we have some new flatmates since a few of the old ones moved out. There's 6 of us -- 5 guys, 1 girl. The girl is an exchange student from LA (but originally Chinese), and she is living right next to me. Could be interesting, had a lengthy chat to her last night.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Very good! let me know how it works out.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

She's a year older than me, haven't seen her about today. I don't think she knows how to cook, maybe I can use that to my advantage.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, learn how to cook. The best chefs are men pappym used to say.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Is that true? I personally prefer Jamie Oliver, he's pretty inspiring.

I am a decent cook, nothing special. But, maybe I can impress her.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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To the modern gal cooking is the vast unknown. Of course it will impress her.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Well, I have no proof that she doesn't know how to cook -- it was sort of a gut feeling. Saw a bag of KFC in the bin, I assume it was hers as I saw everyone else's dinner tonight. For all I know she could be a chef!

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You will have to play the percentages here. She will be amazed.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Still strange that someone who does no exercise and eats fast food so regularly can have such a nice body.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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It is called youth. When you are young your metabolism is fast, meaning it burns a lot of calories per day. Even while sleeping. Also when young the body is very efficient at removing toxins.

If she continues like that the weight will come later.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Hmm, that would explain why I have put on a bit of weight since turning 18.

Still, she is 20/21 -- her youth is nearly over.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Will not begin till she is about 30 to 35. I think that is about usual for them.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

That is a while away...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Oh yes, she should enjoy her looks for a while and you can enjoy them too.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

She's very quiet. I rarely see her and I can't hear her in her room, even though she lives right next to me (i.e. sharing the same inch-thick wall).

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You can go knock on her door.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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