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**zetafunc.****Guest**

He gave his last lecture at MIT a couple of years ago. He is supposed to be one of the best lecturers out there -- and I can believe that for sure, particularly if what he says about how much effort he puts into his lectures is true...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes he is on the zany side. He rides big pendulums, shoots himself out of cannons, eats 40 pizzas, wrestles an alligator, jumps into a vat of hydrochloric acid, jumps out of an airplane without a parachute, runs head first into a moving locomotive, gets hit by lightning... All in the name of physics.

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**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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Yes, that, but he also claims that he puts about 40 hours of work into each lecture, rehearsing them thrice in front of an empty audience, including once at 5 AM on the morning of the lecture -- which, if he did that consistently for the 800 lectures he has supposedly given, is insane.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That just means he wants to be sure.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I guess so, but that is still a lot of effort. A couple of my professors just hold a piece of paper in front of their face and copy their notes on to the board.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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He does not like that type was my impression.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I don't think very many like that type. Particularly if the lecturer has terrible handwriting, a bad accent, or doesn't answer questions (or worse, a combination of those or all three). Then it is very unpleasant.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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They do not answer questions? Why not?

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

One of my lecturers says there is no time and if there are questions just come to see him in his office...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Do people go there and get an answer to there questions?

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I am not sure. I don't think many people go to see him -- there is not much need as it is not a difficult course.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Sometimes that is the way it is when it is a lecture.

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At the end of the term there were a lot of empty seats. Hopefully as a lecturer I could keep them more interested than that. But it will be difficult at first.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That is part of the reason why there is so little interest in technical fields even though the need for them is growing, poor teachers.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Absolutely. For a while I hated my maths teacher so much that I wanted to go into physics instead. Some teachers do not realise the sort of impact they can have on their students.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Was she that bad?

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Yes, she was terrible! Whenever a student asked her a question she would tell them to go buy a revision guide.

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I wonder why people like that ever become teachers. Why not become a banker or attorney?

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I'm not sure. Weird thing is that I've never met a maths teacher who got a first class degree at uni, only ever a 2:1. Maybe that has something to do with it? The more qualified people compete for those sorts of jobs, and the 2:1 graduates, with no experience, find it difficult to pursue those career paths?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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So you mean they settle on math teaching jobs because they are not able to do much else?

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Yes, that might apply to a certain proportion. Although maybe a more likely hypothesis is that they do not know what else to do, rather than them not being able to do something else.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Not good to settle on something because you have no other ideas. Do they think math is easy to teach?

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I'm not sure what they think of the difficulty of teaching, but many of mine have been very lazy -- for example, finding lesson plans pre-made online for every single lesson. If the teacher did not know the answer to a question -- which was quite common -- they'd go look on Yahoo answers or something.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Sounds like they hated math when they were in school.

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So the maths teachers hated their previous maths teachers, who must also have hated their maths teachers, who must also have hated their maths teachers, who ......