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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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What is a secondary school in your system?

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

For people aged 11-16, plus something called Sixth Form for 16-19. Normally Year 7 in the UK is equivalent to 8th Grade in the US, I think.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I see what you mean. Would you like teaching there?

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**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Definitely not -- I don't want to babysit a bunch of hormonal teenagers, after seeing the kind of torture they put teachers through throughout secondary school. It has to be at an undergraduate level or beyond...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Over here no one wants that job either and I do not blame them.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.**

**I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

For the same reason?

They get pretty good pay over here, though. In some cases better than university lecturers. Perhaps even in most cases, especially with the recent 13% salary cut for staff at UCL...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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13% ? That is a big cut.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Yes, it is pretty big. There were numerous strikes at UCL because of it. I already think that they don't earn enough, considering that they are leaders in their field. A few lecturers I believe earn several thousands below the national average.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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It is pretty much the same here, lots of cuts. Teachers and professors have always been at the bottom of the list.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Why is that?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Part of the decline of education in the country especially in technical fields.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Katie wants to be a teacher at secondary school. I wonder why.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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She might like children.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I guess that is one reason why they want to teach at that level.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Over here teachers need to take self defense classes.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Same was true for my school. I don't think there were any serious injuries caused to teachers but there were a few things that happened, like teachers getting punched, pushed, had chairs thrown at them and once peppersprayed I believe!

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Over here the thugs head to school and there are stabbings. Kids pass through metal detectors.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

And there are security guards with guns, I heard?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, there are. I am glad I do not have to go to the modern school.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

It can be terrifying at times but I still managed to enjoy it on occasion.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Back in the old days you only had to worry about getting into a fistfight with another kid your same age and size. Nowadays, kids carry guns and other weapons. They travel in packs like wild dogs and stomp on a person when he is down. They have no honor, no integrity and no future other than prison or the city morgue. Pretty bleak in my opinion.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Agreed. I am very much glad those years are behind me...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Do you think you would rather work in a lab then a teacher?

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

By teacher, do you mean a high-school teacher? And by lab, what sort of lab?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I meant working in industry or government instead of any type of teaching.

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