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**zetafunc.****Guest**

But I cannot get a date. They always say they are busy or just stop talking to me.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Then you can ask more, or you can wait until one likes you enough to ask. Again, it depends on what you are after.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

But I thought we said that I am after a relationship?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Then you will have to abandon any more ideas of dating for a while. Girls at that age are very immature, frankly many of them are there to party and for little else. They are not apt to want to settle down. When you finish your education hopefully you will get a good job. The more personal things you acquire the more they will want you.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

At what age do they tend to become more mature?

The trouble is, I would like to go into academia someday, and hopefully lecture/teach maths at university. And I have heard that those types of guys, especially maths-types, really aren't popular with women...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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When they start to become stupid enough to fall for they types of guys we discussed a long time ago.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.**

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Hopefully I'll fit into one of those categories someday. I probably come across as having no confidence -- it is remarkable how much that affects whether or not they will even look at you.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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They are very superficial. They know little about what is good or bad, they just notice different which they associate as superior. Gigolos, hoods, rich, or physical. Once you fall into one of those groups you have it made. HG, He was the nerd type but he did figure a really good angle.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

What if I can't fall into one of those groups?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Then you will have to wait for the one in a million shot. You are seeking a relationship so those you can not force or manipulate.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Why not?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I never was able to so how can I advise you? Wish I could. It seems most girls are not interested in a serious commitment.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I guess I will just have to wait, then. Hopefully I will not die of old age before that point.

Do you know what a Reader of Mathematics is? At UCL, they seem to have four major job titles for those who lecture: Lecturer, Reader, Senior Lecturer, and Professor. Apparently they are ranked from lowest to highest in order of seniority (and usually the older ones become a Professor). But they all seem to do pretty much the same thing?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

You have a long time to go before you get to old age.

I have heard of that but I do not know what they do.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I asked the departmental tutor, he said they do the same thing as lecturers, just that the title is different. Strange, I guess it is just there for promoting purposes.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Are you interested in being that?

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Yes, I would like to lecture mathematics at university. Although it is very hard to get there, especially at a place like UCL.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I do not see why you will not someday soon.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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It is very competitive, and I do not think UCL have vacancies very often. They do however offer something called a teaching assistantship -- it is a special kind of scholarship (only 5 are given out) where full funding is received for a 4-year PhD with the condition that the student teaches a course to undergraduates (or Masters students) for 4 years. I would really like to get that. Unfortunately the average candidate seems to get 85-90% in their degree!

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Too tough?

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Tough but possible. I would have to score around 10th in my year for the next 4 years.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That is tough. You could do it though.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I am not sure. I am confident I can get a first class degree, but not so much that I can do better than 190 people...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That will be difficult but you never know. Do your best and see what happens.

I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.

All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

That would be the quickest route to becoming a lecturer. If not, I would have to get a PhD and do some post-doc work first, probably at other universities -- although I doubt that most universities would accept a professor having less than a first class degree. You need a 2.1 to be a teacher at secondary school, for example.