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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Yes, but increasingly fewer each year.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hmmm, that is a problem. That is what happened over here. One thing is for certain, less is not more, despite what they say.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

The thing that shocked me most was that pretty much half the people taking a maths A-level get an A in it. That is awful. Talk about maths being devalued.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That is caused by easier tests or better trained people?

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I think it is a result of sticking to the same type of questions for many years. 10 years ago, a candidate might find it hard if there is only 1 past paper to practice. Now, there are at least 20 for each module -- since the exam doesn't change in its monotonous style, it is much easier to pass with so many 'copies' from previous years. I don't think the exams have got easier, nor the students 'smarter'.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I think it is a result of sticking to the same type of questions for many years.

Why is that? Lazy test makers?

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

For the most part, I think so. They claim in their syllabus to test proof by contradiction and by counter-example, but in the 400 or so maths papers I have done, never have I encountered one question like that.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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The true test of any system is how well it is meeting the needs of the society it is in.

Are you better prepared because of the system?

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Yes, but the style of questions means it is possible to have no idea what is going on.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Common problem in mathematics.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

It is the whole 'read, remember and regurgitate' that people want to replace with 'read, reflect and respond'.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Thinking is on the way out. Soon to replaced by doing what everyone else does.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

What is that?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Dress the same. Talk the same. Think whatever the latest pop star tells them to think in the album.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Yes, there are a lot of those in my school...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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A lot is not good enough. We need more of them. You will have to be liquidated to make way for more. What do you think of that idea?

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Is it a good idea for nobody to reflect for themselves?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Of course not. The whole idea is to have a perfectly unused brain when you die. That way you can get your money back.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

That makes sense...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, they will probably remove the brain at birth and keep it in cold storage. When you die they put it back in.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Hmm, that would explain H's brain. Someone probably dropped it before putting it in her.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Possibly it may have rolled around on the floor and been kicked by passing pedestrians. There will be a big call for competent brain removers in the future. I am thinking of investing in it and buying some stock.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Brain removers, that reminds me of what they did in the concentration camps. I read about it, horribly gruesome.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hopefully, I was just joking. Nobody wants to see that comeback.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Yes, it was terrible.