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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Friend.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Friend! You are joking with me right? How many times has this exact event happened?

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

In my life? I don't know, quite a few times. Not with the same person of course. Sometimes when a guy is mentioned, and they talk about how cute he is, I like to pretend I am that guy for a brief moment to imagine how nice that might feel.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Listen, you can not measure yourself in terms of how others perceive you, especially girls.

Have you considered asking that friend why he does that?

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

He was going through guys around the room, not just me. He was not singling me out.

But don't I have to do that to an extent to see how I fare against girls? If I am given a rating of 'definitely not' and go on to receive 9/9 rejections, then clearly there must be some truth in that rating. The data does not seem to lie.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Oh boy. Someone does not know his statistics well enough. I would never draw any conclusion until I had a sample size of at least 30.

So there were others in the class they were doing that to?

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Yes, I think everyone got a better rating than me though.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Now how do you know that? By the way I would still talk to that friend.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Because I was listening to their conversation. Other comments were, 'ooh, he is nice', 'yum', and 'maybe'. Generally, better than 'definitely not'.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Yes, but we are not getting to the reason for their comments. I think that guy is no friend and that the girls in your school are real drips.

I am going to get a little sleep see you later.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I think they are normal, and something about me is undesirable. I wish I knew exactly what it was.

Okay, see you later.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I do not agree. I do not think they are normal. But if you feel that way then you should find out what it is.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

How do I do that?

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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First of all I would ask one of those guys that were prodding the girls for an answer. If they did not answer or got surly I would then beat the beans out of them.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

They will probably say that I am too ugly or I don't socialise enough or something.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hmmm, young people seem to have developed psychic powers. They know what everyone is thinking and what they are going to say and do. I am talking with another young man a bit younger than you and he reads minds also.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

Well, what else could be the reason? That they are racist or something?

Also, I just came back from the Saturday class, thankfully I got to work with a girl called Katie -- she was quite nice and very quiet, softly-spoken. She seemed to like talking to me but I got annoyed when we were sent to different rooms in different groups, and mine contained only boys (no Katie). That was the last time I got to spoke to her. Unfortunately, could not get her number/e-mail.

HOWEVER, I do know what her e-mail address is, since I saw it on the mailing list. But she might think I'm weird for e-mailing her for no apparent reason, so I could possibly invent a reason.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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That could be a possibility as well as other things. I am not an expert on your country so I do not know what gets them riled up.

You can email her and see if she is receptive to you.

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My country has never started any wars or anything, so clearly not political. Most do not even know where it is.

I thought about e-mailing her but not sure what I would say. I don't want to create some sort of awkwardness either since I will have to be seeing her every 2 weeks until December (i.e. what happens if I have to work with her?).

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You already have been separated from her. What happens if you do not work with her?

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Then, nothing. However, three of the other people there go to the same school as her, so if they catch wind that I e-mailed her then they might figure that I like her, and thus act differently towards me or something.

R replied too, it was a bit shorter than usual and she didn't ask me any questions, though...

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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You may have to risk that if you like her. If not, then it is not worth the risk.

Is R away yet?

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I don't know if I like her or I am just pursuing her on the basis that she is a decent-looking woman, which seems a bit pathetic. Recently I am starting to consider almost every girl as a possibility which might wreak of desperation.

Not sure if she is away yet -- she did not mention that. I am going to ask her when I reply.

I want to try to shorten the length of the e-mails with R over time, so replies are quicker and it also provides a nice format for 'short, quick and personal'-esque questions.

**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Pursuing them can become a habit even if you are doing well.

Ask her and you are right about shortening the emails.

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**zetafunc.****Guest**

I hope I do not come off as a creep. Then again, who cares, I might not see her again. (She's applying to Cambridge too though so... I might.)

I just thought of something. Today, we were doing trig functions, trig equations, trig identities. I found it a bit boring, although some were nice. I had to expand cos(6x), so Katie used the cos(A+B) thing, and I just used De Moivre's because I had using that addition formula several times. Since we had to work on the question together, she first said "okay, let's expand with the addition formula", then I said to use DM instead. She said she'd seen the identity before, but never seen it used for this. Maybe I could send her an e-mail asking her where she'd seen it before?

Yes, I want to shorten the e-mails. It's becoming a chore for both of us to reply, I feel. Plus, if I write a long e-mail, I run the risk of her putting it off for a few days -- which might be bad because she might decide to reply after she returns from Amsterdam. Which would not be good.