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#176 2012-02-12 07:24:00

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Re: Oh,Oh,Oh,merry analysis!!!

i cannot.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#177 2012-02-12 07:25:26

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Re: Oh,Oh,Oh,merry analysis!!!

Can not what? Can you form a sequence for n = 1,2,3,... ?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#178 2012-02-12 07:25:42

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that i can.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#179 2012-02-12 07:26:52

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Re: Oh,Oh,Oh,merry analysis!!!

Then please do that. But we should work in the other thread.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#180 2012-02-12 07:35:09

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we shall.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#181 2012-02-12 09:19:11

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Someone said that can be put in a better form to work with. Can you demonstrate the best and most convenient form for computation?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#182 2012-02-12 09:34:27

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https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRT0GbQPzmUZ6A4hTpMLpwRNficvUEFAi5Cjvff4HsUlx_GYvow

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-02-12 09:41:51)


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#183 2012-02-12 09:38:29

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That did not seem to work. See you later!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#184 2012-02-12 09:45:38

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it did work! where are you going?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#185 2012-02-12 12:44:27

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Hi;

Had to do some shopping. he looks like a potato man.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#186 2012-02-12 23:04:59

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he's the 'Okay guy' meme.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#187 2012-02-13 02:19:06

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Hi;

Good afternoon.

What are you getting for #181?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#188 2012-02-13 02:36:38

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hi bobbym

haven't done it yet.i'm gonna use wolfram.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#189 2012-02-13 02:40:52

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Okay, I will wait.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#190 2012-02-13 02:55:12

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hi bobbym


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#191 2012-02-13 02:58:54

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Hi;

Yes, you have expanded it out but is that the optimum way for computation?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#192 2012-02-13 03:07:50

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maybe:

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-02-13 03:08:23)


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#193 2012-02-13 03:11:16

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Turns out this is the preferred form for computation:



It is called Horner's form.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#194 2012-02-13 03:20:06

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really?why?

i saw that before many times.mostly on wolfram.I <3 Wolfram Alpha (now Pro).

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-02-13 03:20:25)


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#195 2012-02-13 03:27:09

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To answer that we will look at a simpler problem. Supposing you were asked to calculate



how would you compute f(3) by hand? Show you steps because we will be doing some simple complexity analysis.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#196 2012-02-13 07:51:52

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hi bobbym

i think you're right after all.

next (this time from asymptotic analysis)?


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#197 2012-02-13 07:54:52

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Hi anonimnystefy;

Does that mean you do not what to see the rest? It is very closely related to asymptotic analysis.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#198 2012-02-13 07:58:42

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no i do not.i want analysis sad

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-02-13 07:59:00)


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

#199 2012-02-13 08:05:57

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Re: Oh,Oh,Oh,merry analysis!!!

What part of analysis?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.

#200 2012-02-13 08:07:12

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asymptotic analysis.Big-Oh and stuff.


The limit operator is just an excuse for doing something you know you can't.
“It's the subject that nobody knows anything about that we can all talk about!” ― Richard Feynman
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment

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