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#626 2012-04-10 11:41:15

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Re: Oh,Oh,Oh,merry analysis!!!

44721 terms?


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#627 2012-04-10 11:46:59

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I do not think that is enough.


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#628 2012-04-10 11:52:30

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Are you sure?


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#629 2012-04-10 11:59:54

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Re: Oh,Oh,Oh,merry analysis!!!

To achieve 10 places of accuracy we need an error less than .000 000 000 05

We solve the equation:


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#630 2012-04-10 12:09:09

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That is exactly what I did. I got 44722.359... Which rounds up to 44723. That is the beginning of the tail so we are taking one term less which is 44722.

I see also that I posted 44721. Whoops...


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#631 2012-04-10 12:11:03

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Re: Oh,Oh,Oh,merry analysis!!!

Hi;

When I solve it I got n = 141421.356


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#632 2012-04-10 12:12:22

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Could you show me your steps?


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#633 2012-04-10 12:17:30

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Times both sides by n^2.


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#634 2012-04-10 12:22:03

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I see where my mistake is-I somehow got 2 with 9 zeros in it. Ok,so how would you accelerate this sequence?


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#635 2012-04-10 12:24:18

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There are many ways but we are doing the RRA.


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#636 2012-04-10 12:28:49

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I know we are doing RRA,but what is the method RRA uses?


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#637 2012-04-10 12:39:06

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Nothing but simple algebra. I will do one more and then we will look at how it works.


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#638 2012-04-10 12:41:36

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Ok,then. Do it.

I must tell you how much your help means to me. I never said that and meant it at the same time. Now I do.


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#639 2012-04-10 12:46:30

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The first application of RRA:

only 3000 terms necessary for 10 place accuracy.


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#640 2012-04-10 12:48:14

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I guess that we can get even more juice out of that lemon.


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#641 2012-04-10 13:03:23

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After 12 iterations of the algorithm:

We have to sum:

Which is more than 11 digits of accuracy from only 21 terms!


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#642 2012-04-10 13:06:32

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Awesome! But why are there commas in the expression?

Can you now show me what the algorithm actually does i.e. What method it uses?


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#643 2012-04-10 13:07:59

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Commas removed for plus signs. The latexing takes longer than the calculation!


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#644 2012-04-10 13:09:29

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Haha,that is true.

You told me you would show me the method now.


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#645 2012-04-10 13:10:35

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Yes, can it wait till later because I am going to eat and it will take time to prepare a proper example and to latex it up?


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I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
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#646 2012-04-10 13:14:08

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Can you post it as soon as you can so that I can see it first thing in the morning?


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#647 2012-04-10 13:16:03

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Yes, I will post it up after I cook and eat. I will need to explain it. So it will
carry on into tomorrow.


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I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
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#648 2012-04-10 13:18:25

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Ok. Don't overdo it. Yoy can post most of it and leave the rest for when you get up. See you tomorrow and again,congratultions!!! smile


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#649 2012-04-10 13:25:19

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Thanks! We will have some fun tomorrow with it. Hopefully we will look at 5 or 6
other acceleration techniques.


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#650 2012-04-10 13:27:17

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Of course we will! See you tomorrow! smile


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