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#26 2012-01-17 11:52:01

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

One more step:

And we are done!


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#27 2012-01-17 11:57:34

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

bobbym wrote:

One more step:

And we are done!

Ahhh I get it. Last quick question, what if it was 4x + 6? Wouldn't that be the same method as you showed me?? Just explain it. I don't want to waste a lot of your time.

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#28 2012-01-17 11:58:52

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

Hi;

You would first minus 6 from both sides and then divide by 4 to both sides.

It is time to sleep for a couple of hours, I am really tired. I will see you later and help with the compositions if no one else has


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#29 2012-01-17 12:01:30

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

bobbym wrote:

Hi;

You would first minus 6 from both sides and then divide by 4 to both sides.

It is time to sleep for a couple of hours, I am really tired. I will see you later and help with the compositions if no one else has

Oh right I will give it a try. Thank you, Bob. Good Nightsleep

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#30 2012-01-17 22:50:50

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

Hi BlitzBall;

Well rested and ready to go!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#31 2012-01-18 01:19:24

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

bobbym wrote:

Hi BlitzBall;

Well rested and ready to go!

Hi, I'm ready to go smile

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#32 2012-01-18 01:21:25

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

Okay, what problems are you working on, I forgot.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#33 2012-01-18 01:22:42

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

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Okay, what problems are you working on, I forgot.

The composition of functions.

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#34 2012-01-18 01:25:40

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

Hi;

I meant in particular.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#35 2012-01-18 01:29:27

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

bobbym wrote:

Hi;

I meant in particular.

Like getting putting g into f and f into g. I get mixed up on which way to input correctly.

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#36 2012-01-18 01:40:22

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

Hi;

f(x)=2x+3

g(x) = x+3

This just means:

So for every x in f(x) we substitue a g(x)

Follow up to here?


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#37 2012-01-18 01:45:55

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

bobbym wrote:

Hi;

f(x)=2x+3

g(x) = x+3

This just means:

So for every x in f(x) we substitue a g(x)

Follow up to here?

I think I get it. When there is x in f(x) and g(x), it can't be turned into x^2.

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#38 2012-01-18 01:50:09

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

Hi;

Not exactly, all we are doing is substituting. Then we have some algebra to clean it up.

Let's do another one:

Wherever the is an x , we substitue g(x) for it and g(x) = 2x.


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#39 2012-01-18 01:55:53

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

bobbym wrote:

Hi;

Not exactly, all we are doing is substituting. Then we have some algebra to clean it up.

Let's do another one:

Wherever the is an x , we substitue g(x) for it and g(x) = 2x.

Ohhh okay. I think I get that. I was wondering why do we need the brackets?

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#40 2012-01-18 01:57:56

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

Okay, I will put another one down and you do it for me:

What is?


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#41 2012-01-18 02:02:22

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

bobbym wrote:

Okay, I will put another one down and you do it for me:

What is?

(x^2+1)+4 ??

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#42 2012-01-18 02:06:25

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

Hi;

Not quite. But do not get discouraged you will soon do it like a champion.

See the x in the equation

f(x) = x + 4? I want you to put a g(x) wherever you see one.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#43 2012-01-18 02:13:07

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

bobbym wrote:

Hi;

Not quite. But do not get discouraged you will soon do it like a champion.

See the x in the equation

f(x) = x + 4? I want you to put a g(x) wherever you see one.

Hmmm. Putting g(x) will result in x(x+1)+4 ?

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#44 2012-01-18 02:15:30

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

Hi;

You skipped a step.

f(x) = x + 4

Now putting a g(x) wherever we have a x in f(x) we get:

f(g(x)) = g(x) + 4


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#45 2012-01-18 02:18:45

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

bobbym wrote:

Hi;

You skipped a step.

f(x) = x + 4

Now putting a g(x) wherever we have a x in f(x) we get:

f(g(x)) = g(x) + 4

Ohhh I get that. In that step you just plot g(x) in x from f(x).

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#46 2012-01-18 02:23:03

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

Yes, you replace every x with a g(x), now you have:

f(g(x)) = g(x) + 4

Now from post #40 we have g(x) = x + 1. Now take and change each g(x) into x + 1.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#47 2012-01-18 02:29:38

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

Okay. f(x) = g(x) + 4 ?  Or is it the wrong way round?

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#48 2012-01-18 02:32:07

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

Hi;

Hold it, watch what I am doing.

f(g(x)) = g(x) + 4

See the boldfaced g(x) in the above equation?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#49 2012-01-18 02:33:58

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

bobbym wrote:

Hi;

Hold it, watch what I am doing.

f(g(x)) = g(x) + 4

See the boldfaced g(x) in the above equation?

OOh yeaah. I forgot to put that on. oops.

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#50 2012-01-18 02:36:39

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Re: Algebra help! Inverse and composition functions

HI;

f(g(x)) = g(x) + 4

Now we replace that g(x) with x + 1 because g(x) = x + 1.

f(x+1) = x+1 + 4

See how each g(x) was replaced by a x+1?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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