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#201 2011-08-04 02:18:59

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

Slightly off. You get two answers to the quadratic as you expected.

8 and -9

We reject the -9 because it is negative. So n = 8. If n = 8 the next number is n+1 which is 8 + 1 = 9.

So your answer is 8 and 9 as the two consecutive positve integers.


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#202 2011-08-04 02:24:52

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

n(n+1)=72

        n^2+n-72=0

        -72+n+n^2=0

       

         8+-1n=0
         8+-8+-1n=0+-8

         -1n=-8
          n=8

        8(8+1)=72

        8(9)=72

so thats how am spouse to post it to my teacher right ?


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#203 2011-08-04 02:27:57

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

I would not have left out the factoring that gave the two roots of (8,-9).

Also I would label the answer as the 2 consecutive integers as I did in post # 201 on the bottom.


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#204 2011-08-04 02:29:38

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

(n + -1n)(8 + -1n) = 0


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#205 2011-08-04 02:31:13

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

so i would post all my work to her and add reject the -9 because it is negative


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#206 2011-08-04 02:36:20

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

Yes, always provide as much work as possible. Most teachers are in love with partial credit. Give them every oppurtunity to give you partial credit.


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#207 2011-08-04 02:41:28

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

what about 17

what should i post this

n(n+2)=63

        n(2+n)=63

       2n+n^2=63

       -63+2n+n^2=63+-63

        -63+2n+n^2=0
         (-9+-1n)(7+-1n)=0

         -9+-1n=0
         -9+9+-1n=0+9
         
          -1n=9

           n=-9


            7+-1n=0
            7+-7+-1n=0
           
            -1n=-7

             n=7

and add what to it ?


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#208 2011-08-04 02:42:58

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

Add two!


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#209 2011-08-04 02:47:21

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

what two


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#210 2011-08-04 02:48:04

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

If 7 is the first number then 9 is then next odd consecutive number. That is 7 + 2 = 9.


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#211 2011-08-04 02:49:07

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

i hate this lesssssssssssson         sad


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#212 2011-08-04 02:50:27

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

well you shouldn't this one has a lot of use in the future.


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#213 2011-08-04 02:51:15

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

Hate it? Why? Solving word problems is necessary and you are doing okay.


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#214 2011-08-04 03:03:36

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

no i think am doing horrible in the word problems


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#215 2011-08-04 03:04:10

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

So? That is the purpose of the forum, to help you get better.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#216 2011-08-04 05:27:14

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

yeah i am getting alllot more better in math than to the forum


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#217 2011-08-04 05:30:29

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

Hi;

Are you all done?


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#218 2011-08-04 05:39:40

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

do you think this is the correct way to get the integer ?

1-Call the smallest unknown integer of the consecutive set "n" and call the following integers "n+1," "n+2" and so on for as many integers there are in the set. For example, if the subject of an SAT question is a set of four consecutive positive integers, call them "n," "n+1," "n+2" and "n+3."

2
Plug the variables into the given algebraic equation. For instance, if the SAT question states that the sum of the squares of four consecutive positive integers is 126, you set up the equation n^2 + (n+1)^2 + (n+2)^2 + (n+3)^2 = 126.

3
Simplify the equation and solve for "n." For example, you can simplify the equation n^2 + (n+1)^2 + (n+2)^2 + (n+3)^2 = 126 to 4n^2 + 12n^2 - 112 = 0 by expanding the squared expressions and combining like terms.

If you use your calculator or the quadratic formula, you will find the two solutions are n = 4 and n = -7. Since the question restricts you to positive integers only, you can disregard n = -7. Therefore the smallest integer in the set is 4.

4
Use the value of "n" to find the rest of the integers in the set. Following the example, if n = 4, then the other numbers are 5, 6 and 7.

5
Use the values of the consecutive integers to answer the main question in the SAT problem. For example, suppose the full question is "The sum of the squares of four consecutive positive integers is 126. What is the product of the four integers?" Since the four consecutive integers are 4, 5, 6 and 7, and 4*5*6*7 = 840, the answer to this problem is 840


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#219 2011-08-04 05:41:18

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

yup am done smile


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#220 2011-08-04 05:42:01

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

Hi;

1) That is one way of doing it. Since there are other ways you can not say that is the correct way.

2) Again that is one way of doing it.


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#221 2011-08-05 06:04:13

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

hey i  just wanted to make sure here its asking for two negative integers so wouldn't the next one be -101 ? because -103+2=-101 ???



16. The product of two consecutive negative integers is 10506. Write a quadratic equation that you could solve to find the integers.

16- n(n+1)=10506

      n^2+n-10506=0

      -10506+1n+n^2=10506+-10506

       -10506+1n+n^2=0

       (-103+-1n)(102+-1n)=0

        -103+-1n=0

         -1n=0+103

         -1n=103

         n=-103

         102+-1n=0

         102+-102+-1n=0+-102

-1n=0+-102

-1n=-102

n=102


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#222 2011-08-05 06:08:59

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

You would now pick the -103. The next consecutive negative integer is - 102.

As you can see the answer has got to be 10506. If n = - 103 then n + 1 = - 102.


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#223 2011-08-06 01:50:45

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

hey this is what my teacher said about  my work

#2. How did you solve -2 + x = 0.

#6. When you have (x +3)(x + 4), how did you solve that and get -4, -1?

12. Good. When we have a problem that contains a fraction, we will multiply  the equation by the denominator to remove the fraction.  Try this please.


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#224 2011-08-06 01:52:27

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

Yes, #6 is wrong. It should be -3 and - 4


So you have worked on about 1100 problems and only got 3 wrong. I should do as well!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#225 2011-08-06 02:36:12

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Re: Solving Quadratics by Factoring and Graphing

am sure you would do much better than i do smile but why is #6 wrong ??


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