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You are not logged in. #26 20110114 20:16:43
Re: Race with possibility of ties (permutations!)Wow bobbym, that's awesome!! "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  Buddha? "Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay." #27 20110114 20:49:36
Re: Race with possibility of ties (permutations!)No, actually the bigger they are the less time it took to derive them. It is the small, compact ones that take years. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #28 20110114 21:33:31
Re: Race with possibility of ties (permutations!)Whatever, but I consider it cool! "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  Buddha? "Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay." #29 20110114 21:47:45
Re: Race with possibility of ties (permutations!)Hi gAr;
Hope nobody sees that. I think you are overestimating me. From that many approximations are possible. That is how he got his on that page. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #30 20110114 22:09:27
Re: Race with possibility of ties (permutations!)All I can say is you are modest. Maybe I have read your articles/books Last edited by gAr (20110114 22:11:05) "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  Buddha? "Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay." #31 20110114 22:20:28
Re: Race with possibility of ties (permutations!)Me modest, humbug! Nah, no one has read any of it. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #32 20110114 22:30:54
Re: Race with possibility of ties (permutations!)hmmm, I'll follow the advice this time.
This may be false!! Last edited by gAr (20110114 22:32:33) "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  Buddha? "Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay." #33 20110115 20:19:29
Re: Race with possibility of ties (permutations!)I came across a list of formulas summarised in wolfram's site: http://functions.wolfram.com/IntegerFunctions/StirlingS2/ "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  Buddha? "Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay." #34 20110115 23:44:28
Re: Race with possibility of ties (permutations!)Hi gAr; In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. #35 20110116 00:01:07
Re: Race with possibility of ties (permutations!)Yes bobbym, really so many of them. "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  Buddha? "Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay." #36 20110116 00:23:20
Re: Race with possibility of ties (permutations!)Besides from that Wolfram has pages and demonstrations as well as videos. In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them. I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it. All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof. 