Discussion about math, puzzles, games and fun. Useful symbols: ÷ × ½ √ ∞ ≠ ≤ ≥ ≈ ⇒ ± ∈ Δ θ ∴ ∑ ∫ π -¹ ² ³ °

You are not logged in.

- Topics: Active | Unanswered

**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
- Posts: 1,285

It could also be found by checking nearby space for x-rays.

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

Offline

**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 109,606

Yes, a black hole emits x rays when matter is pullled in. Trouble is the object you are describing is in a very sparse area. No star systems anywhere near it. Nothing for it to eat, so no xrays, no infrared. The only way to find it is to be looking directly at it through the telescope and observe light being bent around it. Chances of that 1 in 104 000 000 000.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

Offline

**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
- Posts: 1,285

When will its gravity be detecteable?

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

Offline

**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 109,606

From here with present day instruments and if it were say grape size or plum size probably not until it was right on top of is.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

Offline

**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
- Posts: 1,285

Can we ask a marinbiologist how much the blue whale is growing every generation? Perhaps we can get a more accurate date, and distance to the black hole. Also, I want it examined when they sound, their sound might be simultaneous to the black holes x-ray distribution.

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

Offline

**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 109,606

You mean the whale song?

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

Offline

**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
- Posts: 1,285

That's correct. I believe it arise simultaneously as the black hole spurts out x-rays where it is.

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

Offline

**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 109,606

I live in the desert, no whales here. I have never even been to Sea World. I have never even seen a whale. Are you close to water? Where there might be whales.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

Offline

**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
- Posts: 1,285

I'll see if I can arrange a trip to some place with blue whales.

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

Offline

**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 109,606

That is the problem, they are loners. Just them and their babe. They could be anywhere. What we have to do is get a raft like in Kontiki.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

Offline

**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
- Posts: 1,285

This is similar to the movie "the fifth element" I would recommend that you saw it. Mind you, it seems to fold 300 years from now. Give or take.

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

Offline

**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 109,606

You are right I never saw that one. I thought it was close to Star Trek lV. There it was humpback whales not blue.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

Offline

**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
- Posts: 1,285

Wait. I was makin an analysis of the black hole at aproximately 1600 lightyears from earth. If that is a perfect match with the elephants weight (4600 kg) then the blue whales black hole should be elephant weight / bluewhale weight * 1600 lightyears away.

even if we put a mean value there, 4600/180000 * 1600 is still only...

40.9 lightyears away.

Are you certain it's not detecteable on that distance?

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

Offline

**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 109,606

I would say not. It is next to impossible to detect dark objects. There are asteroids and other objects closer than that and they are unknown.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

Offline

**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
- Posts: 1,285

If one of them fall in?

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

Offline

**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 109,606

Then we we might detect it. But space is mostly empty space. Do you have a size estimate for it.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

Offline

**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
- Posts: 1,285

If it was blown here by a supernova, then that momentum still only gave it a speed in this direction of 0.131 times the speed of light

I've got it! if a photon quantum entangled with a black hole does get an odd behaviour, then this must allready be visible on the sun!!!

What is the heaviest side of the sun, Bobbym?

We must search for anomalies on the sun.

*Last edited by LQ (2011-01-14 22:38:23)*

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

Offline

**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 109,606

That is a question I have never heard before. I would presume that it is fairly homogeneous in density. They used to believe that there was a small black hole in the center of our sun.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

Offline

**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
- Posts: 1,285

Meh. Allthough if we could send out light in space and keep the entangled twin, we could see where the black hole was

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

Offline

**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 109,606

Hi LQ;

It came from the phenomena of the missing neutrinos, I do not know whether they resolved it or not. I did not keep up.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

Offline

**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
- Posts: 1,285

I HAVE IT! Sorry for screaming. All we need to do is enlarge a quantum entanglement and put it in the way of the black hole, or close by so that it change course. Then if we could contract it we'd even have a new heading on it, away from us!! How far in the future is this technology??

Perhaps we can even drag out the matter out of the black hole by enlarging the blue whale to what? about 10 solars? Doesn't sound hard, all we need is the trick. Perhaps if we could warp the signal between the black hole and the blue whale, I get a message from somewhere that it could be tried...

timeframe 373 years. or slightly less. Better get a move on.

Besides, there are several techniques that can be better, for instance draw all the matter out of the black hole on a great distance from it, or in portions outside the solarsystem. With the backup plan that we travel against the black hole and draw out the matter near by making an entanglement in the vincinity. As soon as we can draw out the matter, we have no problem. Only a little one. If all goes as planed, we won't have a black hole to worry about. allthough in face of certain death we might live to see another day.

*Last edited by LQ (2011-01-17 03:49:41)*

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

Offline

**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
- Posts: 1,285

Now, for every kind of bluewhale there should be exactly one black hole. More or less. Allthough they may be inseperable.

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

Offline

**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 109,606

Hi LQ;

You want to enlarge a blue until it is 10 solar masses! Why that is 2 solar masses more than Roseanne.

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

Offline

**LQ****Real Member**- Registered: 2006-12-04
- Posts: 1,285

Hehe. Allthough the technology may be temporarily out of reach, I'm certain we will find it until it's here. Unless they choose not to believe it in which case we are all gonna jump through space via a black hole.

I see clearly now, the universe have the black dots, Thus I am on my way of inventing this remedy...

Offline

**bobbym****bumpkin**- From: Bumpkinland
- Registered: 2009-04-12
- Posts: 109,606

Well, I will be long gone before then so...

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**** Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.**

Offline