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#126 2010-07-06 02:59:26

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Re: Make proposals to stopping the oil leakage in the mexican gulf

That is a denial of a lethal force that could destroy on a larger scale then humans may, from what ever I have hear, in any way ever do.

It could cause a gravitational object.


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#127 2010-07-06 03:08:21

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Re: Make proposals to stopping the oil leakage in the mexican gulf

Hi LQ;

Not denying it, modern science will never admit there is any link between gravity and electro magnetism.


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#128 2010-07-06 03:21:38

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Either way, there is a calculeable effect. Check out my other topic and check out the pictures.

Could you help me inprove my calcules?


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#129 2010-07-06 03:23:28

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Re: Make proposals to stopping the oil leakage in the mexican gulf

I'll try, if there was an effect than we could modulate gravity they way we do magnetism and electricity. We would have control over gravity.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#130 2010-07-06 04:22:09

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Bobbym. Imagine that gravity was higher perpendicular to movement speed and the gravitomagnetism was the difference between these forces. Could that be valid?

Let's imagine a triangle with the sides ct(still observer), ct(moving man z,y wise) and vt( moving man x wise )

with speed not being relativistic, but time rather.

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#131 2010-07-06 04:27:20

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Hi LQ;

I don't know.

Gravity according to Einstein, curves spacetime, electromagnetism is a force. Never could undertsand how he intended to relate curvature to a force.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#132 2010-07-07 03:26:00

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Re: Make proposals to stopping the oil leakage in the mexican gulf

They say that about (i believe) 1.5 billion gallons of oil is in the resevoir , so we're talking about 2 years of gushing oil and by then it'll reach places like Europe and the whole ocean will be tainted.But that's just a projection.


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#133 2010-07-07 03:42:04

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bobbym wrote:

Hi LQ;

Not denying it, modern science will never admit there is any link between gravity and electro magnetism.

Isn't that the largest known problem in physics right now?  Linking gravity to the other fundamental forces?


"In the real world, this would be a problem.  But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist.  So we'll go ahead and do that now..."
 

#134 2010-07-07 06:20:58

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Ricky wrote:

bobbym wrote:

    Hi LQ;

    Not denying it, modern science will never admit there is any link between gravity and electro magnetism.

Now that is quote mining. Quoting me in this thread is hitting below the belt. Also the statement is made in protest to the continued use of the word gravitomagnetism. This implies a relationship between gravity and electromagnetism. No such relationship is known to the common man.

I wonder who said this?

"In the real world, this would be a problem.  But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist.  So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

This thread is the rabbit hole. It is like 8 bad hits of acid. But, if you want more...


Ricky wrote:

Isn't that the largest known problem in physics right now?  Linking gravity to the other fundamental forces?

Outside this thread, yes. Inside this thread it is a conspiracy.


bobbym wrote:

The purpose is not the suppression of knowledge, that may not be possible. But to delay it by years, decades or even centuries. Scientia potentia est.

In here we can say things that might be a problem elsewhere. To Tesla, relativity was a fanciful monstrosity, designed to keep humanity busy examining a tough but incorrect notion.


infinitebrain wrote:

They say that about (i believe) 1.5 billion gallons of oil is in the resevoir , so we're talking about 2 years of gushing oil and by then it'll reach places like Europe and the whole ocean will be tainted.But that's just a projection.

That was the assertion of the article that started all these threads. The thread where it all began was somewhat more informative.

http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=14156


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#135 2010-07-07 07:05:24

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If gravity is spreading equally in all directions no matter how fast one move, there must be a sideways force that is bigger then the lengthwise at high velocities?


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#136 2010-07-07 09:58:09

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Re: Make proposals to stopping the oil leakage in the mexican gulf

Now that is quote mining. Quoting me in this thread is hitting below the belt. Also the statement is made in protest to the continued use of the word gravitomagnetism. This implies a relationship between gravity and electromagnetism. No such relationship is known to the common man.

Huh?  After several readings, I can't deny the possibility that you are being sarcastic, but below, I'll assume you aren't.

The statement above you made comes after you've claimed that all quotes are quote mining, so I'll take your complaint as a vacuous triviality.  I know you don't like "gravitomagnetism", and never implied that you did.  I was just interjecting the fact that this is what many physicists are trying to find: the link between gravity and other forces.


"In the real world, this would be a problem.  But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist.  So we'll go ahead and do that now..."
 

#137 2010-07-07 10:04:49

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Ricky wrote:

Huh?  After several readings, I can't deny the possibility that you are being sarcastic, but below, I'll assume you aren't.

This is too vague. I don't know what you mean. Am I sarcastic or not. I used to know the answer to that but you have confused me...

The statement above you made comes after you've claimed that all quotes are quote mining, so I'll take your complaint as a vacuous triviality.

I was using your definition of quote mining not mine.

Ricky wrote:

I was just interjecting the fact that this is what many physicists are trying to find: the link between gravity and other forces.

Ricky wrote:

Isn't that the largest known problem in physics right now?  Linking gravity to the other fundamental forces?

That is not interjecting a fact, that is a question. I see a question mark at the end. You asked a question, and I said yes.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#138 2010-07-07 14:07:09

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Re: Make proposals to stopping the oil leakage in the mexican gulf

OK let's get back to the propasals!
I say that they go down, make an incision, and put liquid nitrogen or liquid helium into the oil! Once it's frozen they begin to freeze it more and more until the whole well is atleast calm until they can find a stronger and more reliable way like  more relief wells smile


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#139 2010-07-07 16:30:26

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Hi infinitebrain;

It would take a lot liquid helium to freeze all that oil.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#140 2010-07-10 07:08:30

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yeah but it'll take alot of time and money to clean up the entire Gulf coast. If I was BP at this point, I'd try anything that could work.


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#141 2010-07-10 07:18:54

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Re: Make proposals to stopping the oil leakage in the mexican gulf

Me too, but BP doesn't care.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#142 2010-07-10 07:24:00

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Hopefully the oil will be plugged at the earliest date. I just feel sorry for all those people who make a living in the water! sad


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#143 2010-07-10 14:33:39

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Re: Make proposals to stopping the oil leakage in the mexican gulf

Well, they can now go fishing for oil.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#144 2010-07-10 20:42:07

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Re: Make proposals to stopping the oil leakage in the mexican gulf

Where is that bacteria that eats up oil?


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#145 2010-07-10 23:19:30

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#146 2010-07-11 05:37:45

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Re: Make proposals to stopping the oil leakage in the mexican gulf

So basically we need that bacteria to be able to live in salt water?


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#147 2010-07-11 07:51:45

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Re: Make proposals to stopping the oil leakage in the mexican gulf

Hi LQ;

Yes, they already do that. I first heard of this solution many years back.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#148 2010-07-12 01:52:40

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I'd be kind of scared of bacteria cleaning up an oil spill! Man-eating bacteria! tongue


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#149 2010-07-12 04:01:20

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Re: Make proposals to stopping the oil leakage in the mexican gulf

I think these guys are bonded. They won't harm people, at least that is what their attorney says.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
I have the result, but I do not yet know how to get it.
All physicists, and a good many quite respectable mathematicians are contemptuous about proof.
 

#150 2010-07-12 04:41:39

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Hehe smile

So I suppose we have no resist to them? ie. can we get that?


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