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#776 2011-03-01 13:29:57

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10078


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#777 2011-03-01 15:17:01

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Hi bobbym,

You made a mistake when you wrote

..
is indeterminate..


I come from a civilization which has given the world the number 0..

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#778 2011-03-01 15:32:03

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Hi Bobby,

I thought that 0° was indeterminate until now. Most of my calculators say so, as does W|A; but my HP 48SX and PC programs BCalc and Microsoft Calculator all gave 1.

A couple of internet articles gave 1 as an answer as well as indeterminate, undefined or nonexistent...depending on the application. But that's all beyond me.

Anyway, I'd initially thought that your calculator's batteries must have been on their way out - hence the answer 1 - as your 10078 should have been 10088.

10101 (ketchup)

10114

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#779 2011-03-01 16:35:26

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Hi Howard and phrontister;

I got so excited about using the 0^0 which has different answers depending on whom you ask. For instance ask google.

Here is another answer:

Other than the times when we want it to be indeterminate, 0^0 = 1 seems to be the most useful choice for 0^0 . This convention allows us to extend definitions in different areas of mathematics that would otherwise require treating 0 as a special case. Notice that 0^0 is a discontinuity of the function f(x,y) = x^y, because no matter what number you assign to 0^0, you can't make x^y continuous at (0,0), since the limit along the line x=0 is 0, and the limit along the line y=0 is 1.

This means that depending on the context where 0^0 occurs, you might wish to substitute it with 1, indeterminate or undefined/nonexistent.

I used it to see if anybody would notice. Anyway,

10127


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#780 2011-03-01 17:03:04

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Hi Bobby,

Yes, that the very same article I found.

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#781 2011-03-01 17:10:54

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If Rick and Jane were here they would have smashed my head like an overripe melon for using it that way. It was in their honor that I did.

10153


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#782 2011-03-01 17:23:12

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"All's fair in honouring others and in mathematical gymnastics"

10166

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#783 2011-03-01 17:29:53

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10179


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#784 2011-03-01 18:57:19

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10192

9+2+1+1+0


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#785 2011-03-01 19:00:18

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10205


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#786 2011-03-01 19:09:06

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10218


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#787 2011-03-01 19:10:47

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10231


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#788 2011-03-01 19:24:18

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10244


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#789 2011-03-01 19:29:43

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10257


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#790 2011-03-01 19:35:36

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10270

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#791 2011-03-01 19:41:31

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10283


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#792 2011-03-01 19:50:40

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10296

9+6-2+1.0=13


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#793 2011-03-01 19:52:14

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10309


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#794 2011-03-01 23:54:50

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10322


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#795 2011-03-02 00:06:07

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10335


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#796 2011-03-02 01:26:27

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10348


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#797 2011-03-02 01:27:57

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10361


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#798 2011-03-02 01:36:07

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10374


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#799 2011-03-02 01:52:26

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10387


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#800 2011-03-02 01:54:20

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10400


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