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#201 2015-12-25 17:35:59

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Re: Purpose of life????

I have seen one of them.


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#202 2015-12-25 17:39:11

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Re: Purpose of life????

Do you know what a free radical is?


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#203 2015-12-25 17:42:48

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Re: Purpose of life????

I am familiar with the Holistic viewpoint only.


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#204 2015-12-25 17:44:02

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Re: Purpose of life????

What is that?


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#205 2015-12-25 17:45:27

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Re: Purpose of life????

Free radicals, also known simply as radicals, are organic molecules responsible for aging, tissue damage, and possibly some diseases. These molecules are very unstable, therefore they look to bond with other molecules, destroying their health and further continuing the damaging process.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#206 2015-12-25 17:49:08

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Re: Purpose of life????

Why do you call that the holistic viewpoint?


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#207 2015-12-25 17:51:12

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Re: Purpose of life????

Because it is the most prevalent argument that people who follow Holistic medicine put forth. By the way, your people were the first humans to practice it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#208 2015-12-25 17:58:43

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Re: Purpose of life????

That is correct but medicine is for chooipian.

A free radical is a species with an unpaired electron in its outer orbit.

The free radical is so upset about the unpaired electron that it always attacks someone else until it finds something to pair up with.This is in accord with your quote:

These molecules are very unstable, therefore they look to bond with other molecules, destroying their health and further continuing the damaging process.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#209 2015-12-25 18:00:11

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Re: Purpose of life????

Medicine, is for everyone. They say let us educate rather than medicate.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#210 2015-12-25 18:03:37

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Fine. That is not a good excuse for overlooking the rest of the post, though.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#211 2015-12-25 18:05:33

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Re: Purpose of life????

I did look at the Chemistry definition.


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#212 2015-12-25 18:07:00

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Re: Purpose of life????

Can you guess what happens when a free radical attacks another free radical?


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#213 2015-12-25 18:09:23

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Re: Purpose of life????

Polymerization might occur.


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#214 2015-12-25 18:18:49

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It is not exactly called polymerization.

The two free radicals pair up their unpaired electrons and a bond is formed. The newer species is obviously not a free radical any more and is stable.

For example, Chlorine Atoms have seven electrons in their outer shell. So, it's 6 + 1.

Another Chlorine atom also has seven electrons.

When the Chlorine atoms hold hands, there are no resultant +1's

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'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#215 2015-12-25 18:20:56

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Re: Purpose of life????

That is a covalent bond.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#216 2015-12-25 18:26:25

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Correct!

The opposite thing is called homolytic cleavage. For example, you shine some light on Chlorine and this happens:

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The little dots mean that they are free radicals.


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#217 2015-12-25 18:28:22

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Re: Purpose of life????

That I know but why the sudden interest in Chemistry? Could it be that EVW was right?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#218 2015-12-25 18:31:16

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Re: Purpose of life????

I like chemistry in general. The only offputting things about it are the hard pen/paper calculations and rote memorizations.

Plus, organic chemistry is very elegant. Alokananda likes it too.

What did EVW say?

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'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#219 2015-12-25 18:33:54

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Re: Purpose of life????

She said you were in danger of dissipation and then she said you reminded her of a frog because you jump around so much.

Need to eat, we will continue later.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#220 2015-12-25 18:40:07

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Re: Purpose of life????

This is benzoyl peroxide.
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The peroxo linking is not all that stable, so this happens
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The benzoyl radical could then break up into a phenyl radical and inert carbon dioxide.

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'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#221 2015-12-25 20:06:32

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Re: Purpose of life????

They used to use that in anti bacterial skin pads.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#222 2015-12-25 21:57:01

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Re: Purpose of life????

Yep. They also use it as a free radical initiator in several reactions.

Last edited by Agnishom (2015-12-25 22:55:27)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.

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#223 2015-12-26 00:44:10

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Re: Purpose of life????

It also appears to be a purpose of life. smile

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#224 2015-12-26 04:52:41

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Re: Purpose of life????

Yep. They also use it as a free radical initiator in several reactions.

Okay, so where is the math problem?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#225 2015-12-26 05:35:21

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Re: Purpose of life????

We're not yet there.

Let's say there are some benzoyl peroxide molecules with a large number of ethene molecules. Do you know what ethene molecule looks like?

Last edited by Agnishom (2015-12-26 05:39:17)


'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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