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#1201 2012-01-30 00:40:50

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#1202 2012-01-30 00:46:23

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1203 2012-01-30 00:48:35

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;



In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#1204 2012-01-30 00:57:29

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1205 2012-01-30 00:59:40

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#1206 2012-01-30 01:07:34

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1207 2012-01-30 01:13:41

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#1208 2012-01-30 01:28:48

gAr
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Re: Is this cool with you?

Okay.
I'll try it again!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1209 2012-01-30 01:34:15

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;

Let me know how you do.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#1210 2012-01-30 01:38:09

gAr
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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbtm,

Yes, if I'll be able to...


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1211 2012-01-30 01:39:45

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Even if you do not, you will at least have the formula. Sometimes that is all we can hope for.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#1212 2012-01-30 01:48:12

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Yes, I hope to find a formula!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1213 2012-01-30 01:54:50

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;

It might be possible with the condition of the problem being restricted to just the normal distribution that there may be something simpler. I know that if both numbers were drawn from the same distribution there is a much shorter form.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#1214 2012-01-30 02:07:47

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,

Okay, I'll check...


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1215 2012-01-30 08:26:24

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi;

Seems that only occurs when the distributions are the same and the parameters too.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#1216 2012-01-30 18:34:06

gAr
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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,

Seems that only occurs when the distributions are the same and the parameters too.

I did not get it. Are we talking about the formula?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1217 2012-01-30 20:41:20

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#1218 2012-01-30 21:52:53

gAr
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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1219 2012-01-30 21:59:19

bobbym
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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#1220 2012-01-30 22:10:41

gAr
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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,

Okay.
I think I would have never guessed of a formula like this!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1221 2012-01-30 22:29:16

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;

Although it is sort of obvious that something has to be multiplied here and we are dealing with two distributions which are computed by integration. I still do not get it either.

I have come across some work by D. Zeilberger on what he calls The Holonomic Ansatz.  The Birkhoff - Trijinsky method for getting an asymptotic form from a linear recurrence is part of it. I have not looked at it well enough and I am still researching it so I do not have anything yet.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#1222 2012-01-30 22:40:29

gAr
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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,

Thanks for the information.

I too will look around... Interesting problem!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1223 2012-01-30 22:43:31

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;

Glad you liked it. What have you been doing recently?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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#1224 2012-01-30 22:55:48

gAr
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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,

Just finished with the exams, some time to relax for a few days!
Bought two books last week: "Applied combinatorics" by A.Tucker and "Probability, Random Variables and Stochastic Processes" by Papoulis.

How are you?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1225 2012-01-30 23:05:31

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Re: Is this cool with you?

I am just the same. The Tucker book is excellent! You will enjoy reading that.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.

I agree with you regarding the satisfaction and importance of actually computing some numbers. I can't tell you how often I see time and money wasted because someone didn't bother to run the numbers.

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