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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.** **A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.** **A number by itself is useful, but it is far more useful to know how accurate or certain that number is.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi,

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

**In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.****If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.**

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Okay.

I'll try it again!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

Let me know how you do.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbtm,

Yes, if I'll be able to...

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Even if you do not, you will at least have the formula. Sometimes that is all we can hope for.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Yes, I hope to find a formula!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

It might be possible with the condition of the problem being restricted to just the normal distribution that there may be something simpler. I know that if both numbers were drawn from the same distribution there is a much shorter form.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

Okay, I'll check...

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi;

Seems that only occurs when the distributions are the same and the parameters too.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

Seems that only occurs when the distributions are the same and the parameters too.

I did not get it. Are we talking about the formula?

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Hi gAr;

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

Okay.

I think I would have never guessed of a formula like this!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

Although it is sort of obvious that something has to be multiplied here and we are dealing with two distributions which are computed by integration. I still do not get it either.

I have come across some work by D. Zeilberger on what he calls The Holonomic Ansatz. The Birkhoff - Trijinsky method for getting an asymptotic form from a linear recurrence is part of it. I have not looked at it well enough and I am still researching it so I do not have anything yet.

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

Thanks for the information.

I too will look around... Interesting problem!

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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Hi gAr;

Glad you liked it. What have you been doing recently?

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**gAr****Member**- Registered: 2011-01-09
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Hi bobbym,

Just finished with the exams, some time to relax for a few days!

Bought two books last week: "Applied combinatorics" by A.Tucker and "Probability, Random Variables and Stochastic Processes" by Papoulis.

How are you?

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**bobbym****Administrator**- From: Bumpkinland
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I am just the same. The Tucker book is excellent! You will enjoy reading that.

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