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#1051 2011-09-05 00:34:17

gAr
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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi,

Yes, has to be very crazy!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1052 2011-09-05 00:36:07

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Is the other conclusion true. Are dumb people saner? Does that make sense? Are they nicer?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1053 2011-09-05 00:44:13

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Of course not!
Actually, what they consider to be crazy is perfectly normal.
The average minds think that all must be greedy and selfish, and that's normal.
"The crazy" do not waste time counting money, or prefering formal arguments over proof by exhaustion!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1054 2011-09-05 00:48:10

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;

True enough. Listen to those guys at that site. They are supposedly bright and yet they are not.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1055 2011-09-05 00:55:10

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Listen to those guys at that site.

Which site? mathoverflow?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1056 2011-09-05 00:55:57

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Yes, sorry to be vague. They are also haughty.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1057 2011-09-05 01:06:40

gAr
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Re: Is this cool with you?

Yes, they don't qualify to talk about him or his mathematics. Clearly arrogant.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1058 2011-09-05 01:08:11

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Have you given the problem itself any thought?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1059 2011-09-05 01:18:32

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Re: Is this cool with you?

I was thinking.
Couldn't get any simplification yet.
Do you know any fast computation?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1060 2011-09-05 01:22:13

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Re: Is this cool with you?

We could play spot the pattern and try to fit for smaller ones. Could use the method of residues. The recurrence is a possibility.

One thing I would not have done was just put this into a program and say well see you later.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1061 2011-09-05 01:41:51

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Yes, or modify the GF a bit to make faster computation. I don't know yet.
There is 2 variable recurrence for partitions, but is that efficient?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1062 2011-09-05 01:44:27

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Re: Is this cool with you?

This is a pretty big GF. I do not know if anything is going to be efficient.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1063 2011-09-05 02:20:07

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Did you read his paper?
Looks like there's precomputed values in his maple program. And some partial fractions.
Couldn't understand the program.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1064 2011-09-05 02:28:08

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;

No, I have not looked at the Sills paper yet. The code is in maple.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1065 2011-09-05 02:33:10

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,

Okay.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1066 2011-09-05 02:47:47

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi;

Did you find the videos? There is a link in the other thread.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1067 2011-09-05 02:52:55

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi,

Yes, I found it, thanks. Forgot to reply there, nice vids.

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"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1068 2011-09-05 02:56:21

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Re: Is this cool with you?

How is the sound coming in for you?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1069 2011-09-05 03:13:49

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Sound in the video?
Watched only 2 videos, sound's okay, but couldn't understand everything he said.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1070 2011-09-05 03:15:32

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Re: Is this cool with you?

He speaks with a very strong accent. I need headphones to understand him.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1071 2011-09-05 03:20:17

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Yes, sometimes need to rewind and play it again to understand some of his words.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1072 2011-09-05 03:22:25

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Re: Is this cool with you?

He does seem to get very excited.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1073 2011-09-05 03:41:52

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Yes, he does!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#1074 2011-09-05 15:29:34

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Have you watched the short one on Transfinite numbers?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#1075 2011-09-05 15:53:02

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Re: Is this cool with you?

bobbym wrote:

New Problem:

You are given an integer t ( 0 to 9 ). You can use decimal points, multiplication, addition, division, subtraction, parentheses and exponentiation only. How close can you get to Euler's number using t only? You can use t as many times as you want.

A says) I got it using 3 t"s.
B says) Nonsense! Not with 3 you didn't.
C says) 4 t's is about right.
D says) Yep!
E says) 3 is definitely not the best.

What is t and what is your expression?

Last edited by reconsideryouranswer (2011-09-05 23:23:44)


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